[Shooter41]

All are at the stock setting.

No, I mean are they low shelf, peak, etc? I'm using the PEQ built in to Roon so I have to specify what type of filter for each of these bands. I'm also not sure if Roon even offers 18 bands.

 

[393699]

Yes, just peak filter. EqualizerAPO with the PEACE add on allows for 31 bands.

 

[Shooter41]

Yes, just peak filter. EqualizerAPO with the PEACE add on allows for 31 bands.

Definitely not using an outboard EQ app. I'll see if Roon will let me do 18. Probably not tonight, tho. Will take a while to enter all that. I'll let you know what I think.

 

[KMann]

Try my EQ. I think you will be impressed.

Pre-Amp = -5

20Hz = +1.5 Q 4.32
25Hz = +1.5 Q 4.32
30Hz = +1 Q 4.32
100Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
125Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
160Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
400Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
500Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
700Hz = -1.5 Q 4.32
800Hz = -0.5 Q 4.32
1.9kHz = +1 Q 4.32
3kHz = +0.5 Q 4.32
3.5kHz = +2.5 Q 4.32
4kHz = +1.5 Q 4.32
4.45kHz = +0.5 Q 4.32
5.5kHz = -1 Q 4.32
8.2kHz = +1 Q 4.32
12kHz = -2.5 Q 4.32

You will have to look at the Frequency profile plot that APO lets you see, what you see is not what you get on a 31 band EQ, all Q values are 4.32 which is quite high and you have adjusted all bands (it is better to increase or decrease the pre-amp gain instead). The gain values you have used for the different bands look good though, the Q values are not. Remove all bands that have +0.5, set them to zero, decrease all bands by 0.5dB (move to PM me if you have questions)

 

[393699]

I ended up using different Q values with the first couple of EQs. In the end, the headphone just sounds better with multiple small gain adjustments along with a Q value of 4.32.

 

[Shooter41]

I did want to make one impression clear right away. These LCD-X's are fantastic at vocals. Gregory Porter's "Holding On" from the album Take Me To The Alley is sublime. "I Can See Clearly Now" from Holly Cole Trio, "A Case of You" by Diana Krall, also show that gender doesn't matter, these things just nail vocals.

 

[Shooter41]

Try my EQ. I think you will be impressed.

Pre-Amp = -5

20Hz = +1.5 Q 4.32
25Hz = +1.5 Q 4.32
30Hz = +1 Q 4.32
100Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
125Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
160Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
400Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
500Hz = +0.5 Q 4.32
700Hz = -1.5 Q 4.32
800Hz = -0.5 Q 4.32
1.9kHz = +1 Q 4.32
3kHz = +0.5 Q 4.32
3.5kHz = +2.5 Q 4.32
4kHz = +1.5 Q 4.32
4.45kHz = +0.5 Q 4.32
5.5kHz = -1 Q 4.32
8.2kHz = +1 Q 4.32
12kHz = -2.5 Q 4.32

I tried it. Firstly, KMann is correct, it's better to eliminate the 7 bands that are +.5db and reduce the overall gain by .5. That said, I'm afraid these settings can't hold a candle to my tweaked Harman curve IMO. Have you tried starting with the Harman curve in post 12,398? It even tells you in the notes which bands to tweak to taste...

 

[TheRH]

Battle Station 2.0. Roon > Qobuz > SPL Phonitor SE > RME ADI-2 DAC FS >Audeze LCD -X (2021)

 

[Shooter41]

Very nice. I see we're both Beck fans..

 

[Shooter41]

Just tried Amir from Audio Science's Eq settings. Very simple, 5 bands, sound pretty dang good to me. Not really a fan of Amir's but he's onto something with these settings. I'll be A/B'ing these with the modified Harman curve for a while. If anybody wants to try them, it's;
Preamp: -11.2 dB
Filter 1: ON LS Fc 31 Hz Gain 6.7 dB Q 1.0
Filter 2: ON LS Fc 127 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 0.8
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 2542 Hz Gain 4.0 dB Q 2.5
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 3700 Hz Gain 8.0 dB Q 4.5
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 5800 Hz Gain -1.0 dB Q 5.0

 

[393699]

Are you older, as in over age 60 ? You must have some hearing loss issues. That EQ is rather bright in the treble, and far too farward in the upper mids.

 

[mikecheck95]

Are you older, as in over age 60 ? You must have some hearing loss issues. That EQ is rather bright in the treble, and far too farward in the upper mids.

I don’t think it’s THAT bright that it would indicate hearing loss. I have 6.5db of gain (total) in that region and it’s probably darker than harman. Older people lose their hearing above 8k anyway. Starting from the top down. I’m 26 and can only hear up to 17.5k which is normal for my age.

Although I would say it's almost certainly unnecessary for @Shooter41 to boost the 3700hz band that much if he has the new revision. It should only need like 6 db of gain and you should look at how the bands interact as well. Again you only need like 6db in that region so if they are both coming together and boosting 3k by like 10db then you’re going to get a sound that is excessively shouty.

 

[Shooter41]

Are you older, as in over age 60 ? You must have some hearing loss issues. That EQ is rather bright in the treble, and far too farward in the upper mids.

I said above that I'm 55. I'm far from the only one that enjoys those curves, though. Don't get your feelings hurt.

 

[mikecheck95]

Also, I can’t believe we’re arguing about curves here. There is information available on this. Most people prefer the Harman curve. Unless you have measured your headphones on an industry standard rig and adjust them to the harman curve I don’t know how you can claim that your curve is really superior to anyone else’s. This is all subjective. Oratory1990 has the most “objective” EQ profile and I based my EQ off of it. It sounds great to me and it’s not because I have hearing loss or anything else it’s because it’s close to the harman target curve.

Also, Audeze has their house curve that the LCD-5 was based off of. It’s a little darker in the upper treble. I reckon it probably sounds amazing. Focused and full in the mids with quick but present bass. At the end of the day though, it sounds good because it’s close to the harman curve which is predictive of sound quality.

 

[Shooter41]

Also, I can’t believe we’re arguing about curves here. There is information available on this. Most people prefer the Harman curve. Unless you have measured your headphones on an industry standard rig and adjust them to the harman curve I don’t know how you can claim that your curve is really superior to anyone else’s. This is all subjective. Oratory1990 has the most “objective” EQ profile and I based my EQ off of it. It sounds great to me and it’s not because I have hearing loss or anything else it’s because it’s close to the harman target curve.

Also, Audeze has their house curve that the LCD-5 was based off of. It’s a little darker in the upper treble. I reckon it probably sounds amazing. Focused and full in the mids with quick but present bass. At the end of the day though, it sounds good because it’s close to the harman curve which is predictive of sound quality.

I've actually been calling the Oratory 1990 the Harman curve because I thought that's what it was. So any reference I made above to the Harman curve is actually to the Oratory 1990. And yes, it sounds good! I lightened the bass just a tad and vary the treble depending on the actual recording I'm listening to. I think Amir's settings also sound good, but I actually added a touch more bass to his. His are based on testing and graphing the response of the LCD-X, so some science behind his too.