Audeze LCD-5 Review, Measurements, Interview
Jan 7, 2024 at 2:13 PM Post #6,691 of 6,785
If I am looking at the specs of the BHA-1, 500mW/32Ohms; 667mW/600Ohms, it's probably below 1W at 14Ohms. I thought the LCD-5 need at least 2.4W or so. Does it really pair so well with them? Also this model is more than 10 years old. Isn't it outperformed by more modern amps whose construction already had planars in mind?
I don't want to be negative. Just wondering...

If you inject 2.4W to LCD-5, it will "scream" till around 124dB. I believe that's not your usual listening level. Audeze itself recommend 500mW, already able to push 117dB with this amount of power.

LCD-5 with 14 ohm and 90dB sensitivity is quite easy to drive for today's desktop amp.
 
Jan 13, 2024 at 4:15 PM Post #6,693 of 6,785
If you inject 2.4W to LCD-5, it will "scream" till around 124dB. I believe that's not your usual listening level. Audeze itself recommend 500mW, already able to push 117dB with this amount of power.

LCD-5 with 14 ohm and 90dB sensitivity is quite easy to drive for today's desktop amp.
Hawlo.

To this day, I still have difficulty in why this concept is as it is.

From my 1 or so watts of the first WA7 3rd gen to the 600 something mw of the Fiio M15, these devices sound very different from the later units I have used. As easy as they are to drive, those past devices I would rather eradicate from memory how mediocre they provided LCD-5 sound.
 
Jan 13, 2024 at 10:55 PM Post #6,694 of 6,785
If you inject 2.4W to LCD-5, it will "scream" till around 124dB. I believe that's not your usual listening level. Audeze itself recommend 500mW, already able to push 117dB with this amount of power.

LCD-5 with 14 ohm and 90dB sensitivity is quite easy to drive for today's desktop amp.
The sensitivity is usually measured at 1khz which is relatively easy to produce in comparison to low frequencies. Which directly means that more power is needed to produce bass. So sensitivity specs are in a way deceiving (from drivability perspective). Then comes the problem of low impedance. Most of the older amps are well design in the sense that they are made to protect excess power delivery into low impedance loads preventing you burning up the headphone (literally). So high power delivery at low impedance is a special problem which requires specialised amplifiers that are now in the market. On top of if, if EQ is applied with added bass for instance, usually a negative pre gain is pretty much mandatory. This directly puts a huge load on the amplifier where it is required to compensate in the analog domain for those lost dbs in the pregain settings in the digital domain.

Having said all that, I believe, if no EQ is applied, an amplifier that doesn’t have a protection circuit for low impedance loads will drive the LCD5 if it can deliver 1-1.5W of power if you are listening at an average of 75-80db.
 
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Jan 16, 2024 at 9:44 AM Post #6,695 of 6,785
Hi Guys, ill copy my lcd-5 review below :)


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Introduction​

Hi Guys,

Today we are taking a look at the most recent flagship planar magnetic headphones from Giant in the space, the LCD-5 from Audeze. Audeze made their name as part of the early planar magnetic headphone resurgence about a decade and a half ago with headphones like the LCD-1, and original LCD-2. Since then, in terms of flagship headphones from Audeze, we have seen the LCD-3, LCD-4, and LCD-5. I have owned the LCD-3 and LCD-4 long term and was really interested in what the LCD-5 was like as it was such a massive departure from both their signature design and past tunings. The original LCD series were typified by their wood rings, heavy build, and usually relaxed and warm tuning (to varying degrees.) The LCD-5 has moved away from that entirely, being much lighter, and slightly smaller physically, with a much more upper mid forward and neutral type of presentation sonically. Tuning-wise, the LCD-5 is very similar to Audeze’s co-flagship headphone, the electrostatic CRBN (which I reviewed a few months back.)

Tuning​

In general, I wasn’t a huge fan of the stock tuning of the CRBN, but found with EQ it became an incredibly enjoyable pair of headphones. Due to the LCD-5 being so similar in terms of stock tuning, this was the case again. The overall sound of the LCD-5 does differ from the CRBN in some ways, but overall in terms of tuning alone, they are very similar. I’ll speak about the tuning in its stock form, and then about EQ in relation to the LCD-5 afterwards.

The low end of the LCD-5 is entirely neutral. No recession, no boost. This is pretty common amongst planar magnetic headphones, and the LCD-5 is no exception. In previous LCD models, the bass was always a strong point, but could at times be slow sounding. The LCD-5 is the fastest and most accurate of all the LCD headphones in terms of bass. Impact/slam is one aspect that surprised me. The LCD-5 isn’t far away from the Abyss 1266TC in this area, and the 1266TC is the best on the market with regards to slam/impact. As with most headphones, I prefer a low shelf of some sort(adjust to personal preference obviously) to be applied via EQ as I prefer a more robust bass response than the LCD-5 has in its stock tuning.

The mid-range of the LCD-5 is incredibly similar to the CRBN and incredibly different from past LCD models. In terms of the low mid-range, it is much more neutral, less warm, and “gooey” for lack of a better term. The upper mid-range is very similar to the CRBN with a massive 3khz peak. This is also a departure from the much more recessed upper mid-range of previous LCD models. The 3khz peak is too much for me, and I adjusted that area via EQ. I think that the perceived overly forward upper mids nature of the LCD-5 is partly due to the 3khz peak, but also due to the much more subdued low end and treble than would normally be paired with such a peak. I found the 3khz area much less problematic if I simply boosted the low end and treble, but overall, preferred if it was slightly lowered via EQ. I think this upper mid-range is down to personal preference, and what is too much for one person might be just right for the next. As with the bass, the overall transparency, speed, and detail of the driver help convey the mids very well.

The treble of the LCD-5 is again, fairly neutral. It isn’t overly boosted or overly recessed. The treble is quite similar to the previous LCD models, perhaps being slightly less pronounced. For me, it isn’t enough overall in terms of level. I think that in combination with the very forward upper mids, it makes the treble come across as being less pronounced than it actually is. Again, this is something that is easily remedied with EQ, tweaked to personal preferences. The treble is very transparent and detailed, as with the rest of the frequency response.

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Technical Performance​

In terms of technical performance, the LCD-5 is a big step forward in most areas compared to previous LCD models, and a step back in some other ways. It is without a doubt the most detailed, transparent, impactful, and clean-sounding driver Audeze has come up with thus far. I even think that it slightly edges out the CRBN in terms of overall detail levels and transparency, which is impressive given the CRBN is an electrostatic headphone. The LCD-5’s soundstage is less grand sounding than the LCD-4, and I feel this is something some people might miss. If I had to come up with an analogy, the LCD-4 is a big cozy armchair that envelops you, and the LCD-5 is a carbon fiber racing bucket seat with a 5-point harness. The LCD-5 is the higher-performing headphone, but there is something to be said for the LCD-4 and other LCD series more laid-back nature. Overall the technical performance of the LCD-5 is incredibly impressive.

As I have mentioned previously, the stock tuning out of the box with the LCD-5 is not personally for me. It is too forward in the upper mids and lacks low-end and treble presence for my taste. The thing is, the LCD-5 has incredibly low distortion and takes to EQ very, very well. I didn’t end up doing anything drastic, and it turned it into a headphone I greatly enjoyed. I just applied a low and high shelf, and slightly reduced the 3khz peak. With these adjustments in combination with the slam and impact I mentioned speaking about the low end, the LCD-5 sort of reminded me of the Abyss 1266TC. In a way, like a more focused smaller sounding 1266TC.

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Build Quality and Comfort​

The build quality and overall design are also a massive departure from previous LCD series headphones. Gone are the classic wood rings, replaced with acetate tortoiseshell. Gone are the big sumptuous leather pads, replaced with fluted leather. The overall size has shrunk, I would guess by about 10%. The LCD-5 does feel slightly smaller on your ears than the previous LCD series headphones. The headband is carbon fiber, to help achieve the weight savings that the LCD-5 has managed. With the LCD-4 you were looking at around 700-710 grams for the headphones, and with the LCD-5 that has been reduced to 420 grams. I feel that 420 grams is much more reasonable, and I haven’t had any issues with comfort over my time with the LCD-5. They are not as comfortable as something like the Meze ELITE (and empyrean) which are still the gold standard in my opinion for headphone comfort, but they are entirely usable for long periods without discomfort. The LCD-5 comes with a very nice and well-made braided cable terminated in 4-pin XLR, with a 4-pin XLR to 6.35mm TRS adapter. This has you covered for most uses, and a cheap 4-pin XLR to 4.4mm Pentaconn adapter from Amazon would round that out nicely.

One thing to mention about the LCD is that it is much different from previous LCD series headphones in terms of sensitivity and impedance. The LCD-4 was a headphone with a 200ohm impedance and a 97db/mw sensitivity, whilst the LCD5 has an impedance of only 14ohms and 90db/mw sensitivity. This is worth taking into consideration as although the impedance has massively reduced, the sensitivity is much lower. It will take some experimentation to find out which amp works best for your uses, and whether or not you will be using it in a portable setting, etc…For example, due to the uncharacteristically low impedance, I ended up having to use the iFi Diablo 2’s single-ended output instead of the balanced output, as I was hitting the current protection and the unit was shutting off with the balanced 4.4mm out, but there were no issues using the single-ended output. This will entirely depend on the gear you are using, so experiment and see what you find works best.

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Comparisons​

In terms of comparisons with the LCD-5 being the current flagship planar magnetic headphone from a juggernaut in the space, it makes sense to compare it to other options.

Compared to the Hifiman Susvara, the LCD-5 is more aggressive and less laid back. It is slightly less detailed than the Susvara but does have more impact, whilst also being more focused sounding with a smaller soundstage. Of the two, I prefer the Susvara, but the LCD-5 is much easier to drive, and also 1500USD cheaper at MSRP.

Against the Abyss 1266TC, there are more similarities than you might expect (if EQ is applied.) The LCD-5 is slightly less detailed but does come close in terms of impact and slam. The 1266TC has a much bigger overall sound and soundstage but is heavier and slightly less comfortable. These are both very different headphones, with a few similarities in terms of technical performance if the LCD-5 is used with EQ. Again, there is a large difference in cost at 4500USD for the LCD-5.

The Meze Elite is the closest comparison in terms of MSRP, with the ELITE being 4000USD, and the LCD-5 being 4500USD. The Elite actually sort of reminds me more of the LCD-4 in terms of tuning, being slightly warmer and laid back in its overall nature. The LCD-5 is more detailed, with more transparency, impact, and slam. The ELITE is grander sounding, with a bigger sonic image and a much bigger soundstage. Comfort goes to the ELITE, but it is a class leader in this area.

Compared to Audezes co flagship, the CRBN, the LCD-5 has an incredibly similar frequency response. It has a smaller soundstage, especially in terms of soundstage height. It is very slightly more resolving and transparent than the CRBN, which surprised me due to the CRBN’s electrostatic nature. The big plus for the LCD-5 is the lack of need for an electrostatic amplifier. I’d be very curious to see Audeze try a Planar Magnetic headphone in the form factor of the CRBN, that could be a real winner.

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Conclusion​

Overall, the LCD-5 is a very interesting addition to Audeze’s lineup and a very big departure from their previous LCD series headphones in general. It is a much physically lighter and smaller headphone, with an entirely different tuning. I am not a fan of the tuning of the LCD-5 in its stock form, with it being too upper mid-forward, whilst lacking low and high end for my personal preferences. However, after applying EQ to make it more in line with my personal preferences, the LCD-5 became an incredibly enjoyable headphone to listen to. It is very detailed, transparent, and has a surprising amount of impact/slam. Overall comfort levels and weight in particular are a big improvement over the previous LCD headphones, but at times I did miss that sumptuous feel that the LCD4 had, for example. In a way, it is like a big comfortable 1980s Bentley Turbo R vs a 911 GT2RS. Both are great, just very different. With regards to the stock tuning not being my preference, I know that there are people out there who love the LCD-5’s stock tuning, so I would highly recommend you give them a try if you are not sure. You may not feel the need for EQ, and the stock tuning might be right up your alley.

I’m really curious about what is next for Audeze, especially with their recent acquisition by Sony PlayStation. The LCD-5 is a great addition to their lineup, but I’d also like to see them continue to experiment with other tunings and form factors (like the CRBN) whilst trying to maintain the level of technical performance the LCD-5 has achieved. Great stuff Audeze!
 
Jan 16, 2024 at 12:30 PM Post #6,696 of 6,785
Hi Guys, ill copy my lcd-5 review below :)


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Introduction​

Hi Guys,

Today we are taking a look at the most recent flagship planar magnetic headphones from Giant in the space, the LCD-5 from Audeze. Audeze made their name as part of the early planar magnetic headphone resurgence about a decade and a half ago with headphones like the LCD-1, and original LCD-2. Since then, in terms of flagship headphones from Audeze, we have seen the LCD-3, LCD-4, and LCD-5. I have owned the LCD-3 and LCD-4 long term and was really interested in what the LCD-5 was like as it was such a massive departure from both their signature design and past tunings. The original LCD series were typified by their wood rings, heavy build, and usually relaxed and warm tuning (to varying degrees.) The LCD-5 has moved away from that entirely, being much lighter, and slightly smaller physically, with a much more upper mid forward and neutral type of presentation sonically. Tuning-wise, the LCD-5 is very similar to Audeze’s co-flagship headphone, the electrostatic CRBN (which I reviewed a few months back.)

Tuning​

In general, I wasn’t a huge fan of the stock tuning of the CRBN, but found with EQ it became an incredibly enjoyable pair of headphones. Due to the LCD-5 being so similar in terms of stock tuning, this was the case again. The overall sound of the LCD-5 does differ from the CRBN in some ways, but overall in terms of tuning alone, they are very similar. I’ll speak about the tuning in its stock form, and then about EQ in relation to the LCD-5 afterwards.

The low end of the LCD-5 is entirely neutral. No recession, no boost. This is pretty common amongst planar magnetic headphones, and the LCD-5 is no exception. In previous LCD models, the bass was always a strong point, but could at times be slow sounding. The LCD-5 is the fastest and most accurate of all the LCD headphones in terms of bass. Impact/slam is one aspect that surprised me. The LCD-5 isn’t far away from the Abyss 1266TC in this area, and the 1266TC is the best on the market with regards to slam/impact. As with most headphones, I prefer a low shelf of some sort(adjust to personal preference obviously) to be applied via EQ as I prefer a more robust bass response than the LCD-5 has in its stock tuning.

The mid-range of the LCD-5 is incredibly similar to the CRBN and incredibly different from past LCD models. In terms of the low mid-range, it is much more neutral, less warm, and “gooey” for lack of a better term. The upper mid-range is very similar to the CRBN with a massive 3khz peak. This is also a departure from the much more recessed upper mid-range of previous LCD models. The 3khz peak is too much for me, and I adjusted that area via EQ. I think that the perceived overly forward upper mids nature of the LCD-5 is partly due to the 3khz peak, but also due to the much more subdued low end and treble than would normally be paired with such a peak. I found the 3khz area much less problematic if I simply boosted the low end and treble, but overall, preferred if it was slightly lowered via EQ. I think this upper mid-range is down to personal preference, and what is too much for one person might be just right for the next. As with the bass, the overall transparency, speed, and detail of the driver help convey the mids very well.

The treble of the LCD-5 is again, fairly neutral. It isn’t overly boosted or overly recessed. The treble is quite similar to the previous LCD models, perhaps being slightly less pronounced. For me, it isn’t enough overall in terms of level. I think that in combination with the very forward upper mids, it makes the treble come across as being less pronounced than it actually is. Again, this is something that is easily remedied with EQ, tweaked to personal preferences. The treble is very transparent and detailed, as with the rest of the frequency response.

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Technical Performance​

In terms of technical performance, the LCD-5 is a big step forward in most areas compared to previous LCD models, and a step back in some other ways. It is without a doubt the most detailed, transparent, impactful, and clean-sounding driver Audeze has come up with thus far. I even think that it slightly edges out the CRBN in terms of overall detail levels and transparency, which is impressive given the CRBN is an electrostatic headphone. The LCD-5’s soundstage is less grand sounding than the LCD-4, and I feel this is something some people might miss. If I had to come up with an analogy, the LCD-4 is a big cozy armchair that envelops you, and the LCD-5 is a carbon fiber racing bucket seat with a 5-point harness. The LCD-5 is the higher-performing headphone, but there is something to be said for the LCD-4 and other LCD series more laid-back nature. Overall the technical performance of the LCD-5 is incredibly impressive.

As I have mentioned previously, the stock tuning out of the box with the LCD-5 is not personally for me. It is too forward in the upper mids and lacks low-end and treble presence for my taste. The thing is, the LCD-5 has incredibly low distortion and takes to EQ very, very well. I didn’t end up doing anything drastic, and it turned it into a headphone I greatly enjoyed. I just applied a low and high shelf, and slightly reduced the 3khz peak. With these adjustments in combination with the slam and impact I mentioned speaking about the low end, the LCD-5 sort of reminded me of the Abyss 1266TC. In a way, like a more focused smaller sounding 1266TC.

img_0080.jpeg

Build Quality and Comfort​

The build quality and overall design are also a massive departure from previous LCD series headphones. Gone are the classic wood rings, replaced with acetate tortoiseshell. Gone are the big sumptuous leather pads, replaced with fluted leather. The overall size has shrunk, I would guess by about 10%. The LCD-5 does feel slightly smaller on your ears than the previous LCD series headphones. The headband is carbon fiber, to help achieve the weight savings that the LCD-5 has managed. With the LCD-4 you were looking at around 700-710 grams for the headphones, and with the LCD-5 that has been reduced to 420 grams. I feel that 420 grams is much more reasonable, and I haven’t had any issues with comfort over my time with the LCD-5. They are not as comfortable as something like the Meze ELITE (and empyrean) which are still the gold standard in my opinion for headphone comfort, but they are entirely usable for long periods without discomfort. The LCD-5 comes with a very nice and well-made braided cable terminated in 4-pin XLR, with a 4-pin XLR to 6.35mm TRS adapter. This has you covered for most uses, and a cheap 4-pin XLR to 4.4mm Pentaconn adapter from Amazon would round that out nicely.

One thing to mention about the LCD is that it is much different from previous LCD series headphones in terms of sensitivity and impedance. The LCD-4 was a headphone with a 200ohm impedance and a 97db/mw sensitivity, whilst the LCD5 has an impedance of only 14ohms and 90db/mw sensitivity. This is worth taking into consideration as although the impedance has massively reduced, the sensitivity is much lower. It will take some experimentation to find out which amp works best for your uses, and whether or not you will be using it in a portable setting, etc…For example, due to the uncharacteristically low impedance, I ended up having to use the iFi Diablo 2’s single-ended output instead of the balanced output, as I was hitting the current protection and the unit was shutting off with the balanced 4.4mm out, but there were no issues using the single-ended output. This will entirely depend on the gear you are using, so experiment and see what you find works best.

img_0074-1.jpeg

Comparisons​

In terms of comparisons with the LCD-5 being the current flagship planar magnetic headphone from a juggernaut in the space, it makes sense to compare it to other options.

Compared to the Hifiman Susvara, the LCD-5 is more aggressive and less laid back. It is slightly less detailed than the Susvara but does have more impact, whilst also being more focused sounding with a smaller soundstage. Of the two, I prefer the Susvara, but the LCD-5 is much easier to drive, and also 1500USD cheaper at MSRP.

Against the Abyss 1266TC, there are more similarities than you might expect (if EQ is applied.) The LCD-5 is slightly less detailed but does come close in terms of impact and slam. The 1266TC has a much bigger overall sound and soundstage but is heavier and slightly less comfortable. These are both very different headphones, with a few similarities in terms of technical performance if the LCD-5 is used with EQ. Again, there is a large difference in cost at 4500USD for the LCD-5.

The Meze Elite is the closest comparison in terms of MSRP, with the ELITE being 4000USD, and the LCD-5 being 4500USD. The Elite actually sort of reminds me more of the LCD-4 in terms of tuning, being slightly warmer and laid back in its overall nature. The LCD-5 is more detailed, with more transparency, impact, and slam. The ELITE is grander sounding, with a bigger sonic image and a much bigger soundstage. Comfort goes to the ELITE, but it is a class leader in this area.

Compared to Audezes co flagship, the CRBN, the LCD-5 has an incredibly similar frequency response. It has a smaller soundstage, especially in terms of soundstage height. It is very slightly more resolving and transparent than the CRBN, which surprised me due to the CRBN’s electrostatic nature. The big plus for the LCD-5 is the lack of need for an electrostatic amplifier. I’d be very curious to see Audeze try a Planar Magnetic headphone in the form factor of the CRBN, that could be a real winner.

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Conclusion​

Overall, the LCD-5 is a very interesting addition to Audeze’s lineup and a very big departure from their previous LCD series headphones in general. It is a much physically lighter and smaller headphone, with an entirely different tuning. I am not a fan of the tuning of the LCD-5 in its stock form, with it being too upper mid-forward, whilst lacking low and high end for my personal preferences. However, after applying EQ to make it more in line with my personal preferences, the LCD-5 became an incredibly enjoyable headphone to listen to. It is very detailed, transparent, and has a surprising amount of impact/slam. Overall comfort levels and weight in particular are a big improvement over the previous LCD headphones, but at times I did miss that sumptuous feel that the LCD4 had, for example. In a way, it is like a big comfortable 1980s Bentley Turbo R vs a 911 GT2RS. Both are great, just very different. With regards to the stock tuning not being my preference, I know that there are people out there who love the LCD-5’s stock tuning, so I would highly recommend you give them a try if you are not sure. You may not feel the need for EQ, and the stock tuning might be right up your alley.

I’m really curious about what is next for Audeze, especially with their recent acquisition by Sony PlayStation. The LCD-5 is a great addition to their lineup, but I’d also like to see them continue to experiment with other tunings and form factors (like the CRBN) whilst trying to maintain the level of technical performance the LCD-5 has achieved. Great stuff Audeze!
In my experience of owning both LCD-5 and susvara at the same time, the lower treble of the 5 is the only cause of the perceived recession of detail compared between the two. A small amount of EQ easily matches the two, with the 5 having much more "realism" to it's mid range compared to the susvara.

That being said, a well amped susvara has the best instrument separation and stage of any headphone I've heard. No EQ on the LCD-5 can match it.
 
Jan 17, 2024 at 8:48 AM Post #6,697 of 6,785
Overall, the LCD-5 is a very interesting addition to Audeze’s lineup and a very big departure from their previous LCD series headphones in general. It is a much physically lighter and smaller headphone, with an entirely different tuning. I am not a fan of the tuning of the LCD-5 in its stock form, with it being too upper mid-forward, whilst lacking low and high end for my personal preferences. However, after applying EQ to make it more in line with my personal preferences, the LCD-5 became an incredibly enjoyable headphone to listen to.

Thank you for the detailed review.

The LCD-5 stock tuning has been polarizing. I'd love to hear Audeze explain how they came to it.

The glued-on ear pads ; headphone connection construction and overall pivot system isn't as refined as I would like.

I am yet to hear the Maze Elite but the LCD-5 remains one of the best planar headphones available on the market. It's capable and technically proficient. I find it very comfortable. I have changed the stock cable. The Mitch Barnett convolution results in a very significant change in the sound. The 6Db mids peak and brightness is smoothed out considerably. I find it almost laid back and dreamy. Especially with female vocals.

Susvara driven out of a headphone amplifier and reasonably high end Naim system remains to this day my most memorable and #1 headphone listen. I just couldn't fault it. The holographic sound stage was as close to two-channel as I have heard in a headphone. The reason I don't own one is I had no desire to invest 5 figures in the DAC/Amp system and the risk of accidentally damaging my ears if I accidentally turned the volume past 5 / 100.
 
Jan 17, 2024 at 10:38 AM Post #6,698 of 6,785
I am yet to hear the Maze Elite but the LCD-5 remains one of the best planar headphones available on the market. It's capable and technically proficient. I find it very comfortable. I have changed the stock cable. The Mitch Barnett convolution results in a very significant change in the sound. The 6Db mids peak and brightness is smoothed out considerably. I find it almost laid back and dreamy. Especially with female vocals.

Susvara driven out of a headphone amplifier and reasonably high end Naim system remains to this day my most memorable and #1 headphone listen. I just couldn't fault it. The holographic sound stage was as close to two-channel as I have heard in a headphone. The reason I don't own one is I had no desire to invest 5 figures in the DAC/Amp system and the risk of accidentally damaging my ears if I accidentally turned the volume past 5 / 100.
You might not like the female vocals on the susvara as much as you like them on the LCD-5; I know I don't. Vocals are the biggest weakness of the susvara, compared to the LCD-5 IMO.
 
Jan 17, 2024 at 11:26 AM Post #6,699 of 6,785
Hawlo.

To this day, I still have difficulty in why this concept is as it is.

From my 1 or so watts of the first WA7 3rd gen to the 600 something mw of the Fiio M15, these devices sound very different from the later units I have used. As easy as they are to drive, those past devices I would rather eradicate from memory how mediocre they provided LCD-5 sound.

You should understand the differences between signal quality and output power. If there are 2 amplifier that output exactly the same (e.g: 1 watt) they may sound significantly different one to each other in term of character and technicalities.

LCD-5 is quite a transparent headphone, means if you change something in your set up (DAC, Amp, etc) you can hear it easily.
 
Jan 20, 2024 at 4:09 AM Post #6,700 of 6,785
The MM500 from Audeze sits on my head in such a way that creates some really intense pressure, I'm not sure why. As I begin the process to return them, I wonder if the LCD-5 is a good or terrible idea considering the MM was a very very uncomfortable headphone for me, and the LCD-5 lacks any and all 'give' in its carbon fiber headband design. Does anyone with experience wearing both have any input? I feel like it's less the clamping pressure and more the way these pads sit on my ears upper and lower front ears that causes a sense of 'heat' and pressure.
 
Jan 20, 2024 at 9:50 AM Post #6,701 of 6,785
The MM500 from Audeze sits on my head in such a way that creates some really intense pressure, I'm not sure why. As I begin the process to return them, I wonder if the LCD-5 is a good or terrible idea considering the MM was a very very uncomfortable headphone for me, and the LCD-5 lacks any and all 'give' in its carbon fiber headband design. Does anyone with experience wearing both have any input? I feel like it's less the clamping pressure and more the way these pads sit on my ears upper and lower front ears that causes a sense of 'heat' and pressure.
i put on the longer rods, they are very comfortable
 
Jan 20, 2024 at 11:00 AM Post #6,702 of 6,785
Initial releases of the Audeze LCD-5 had a tighter clamp force. Arguably, it may have resulted in a richer sound akin to pushing the pads closer to the ears.

Most parts of the headband are modular and later models (I forget how long after initial release but I think it was within the first year) had a carbon headband with less clamp force. I don’t find it tight at all. Will agree they’re rather comforable
 
Jan 25, 2024 at 10:20 PM Post #6,704 of 6,785
They have sent Roon the filters but it's on Roon to add them and release an update. It's likely not too high on their priority list, but Audeze have shared the convolution filters with us on this post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/audeze-dsp-presets-now-available-in-roon.858730/post-16996246

You can download the ZIP file for the linear preset, add a convolution filter from the Roon DSP and point it to the ZIP file. That thread has more specific instructions, but it's pretty simple and will get the same result the official Roon preset will, once they get around to adding it.
Is-it the same in roon ?

What you suggest linear or low latency ?
With HQPlayer I upsample to dsd 256, what filter should I use ? 384khz or 44 or 48 ?
 
Jan 25, 2024 at 11:09 PM Post #6,705 of 6,785
Is-it the same in roon ?

What you suggest linear or low latency ?
With HQPlayer I upsample to dsd 256, what filter should I use ? 384khz or 44 or 48 ?
It's been a while since I had the LCD5, but yes, the EQ was eventually added to the Roon presets. I remember liking the linear one more.

With HQPlayer, I would use the 384k one. Make sure Expand HF is selected.
 

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