Apr 6, 2022 at 1:58 AM Post #4,876 of 7,074
Almost done writing my LCD-5 review, but I realized this unholy matrimony works way better than I even originally thought:

IMG_7256.jpg
that is really overkill for the lcd-5
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:27 AM Post #4,877 of 7,074
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Apr 6, 2022 at 12:44 PM Post #4,878 of 7,074
Could someone please try my optimized
LCD-4 curve, and give a little feedback?

Screenshot_20220406-194527_Neutron Player.jpg

Preamp -4db
 
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Apr 6, 2022 at 1:13 PM Post #4,879 of 7,074
I still can't believe it.
This "LCD-4 like" preset, seems to work much better on the LCD-5, than Harman target.
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 1:27 PM Post #4,880 of 7,074
My preset is ready :beerchug:

Screenshot_20220406-171132_Neutron Player.jpg
Preamp -9db

The starting point was Harman target by Oratory.
I added 2 dB at 150hz (Q3) to add even more punch.
That also worked very well.
Dan Clark came up with the idea.

I also lowered the treble, as well as at 1,5 & 2,1 khz, because the LCD-5 still, in places, sounded too "sharp" for me.
From 10khz, i raised it by 1.5 db to get a more airy sound.
The Audeze responded superbly to this as well.

This tonality created a sound that I would describe as warm but not dark,
with strong bass (good slam, good punch), and as "airy",
with unobtrusive (but not too restrained) mids.
:beerchug:
would like to begin to understand how to use this. Please explain what needs to be done. i have so far downloaded APO and Peace. am I going in the right direction? dont know what to do now....
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 1:39 PM Post #4,881 of 7,074
Sorry Bud, I'm using Neutron...
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 1:49 PM Post #4,882 of 7,074
would like to begin to understand how to use this. Please explain what needs to be done. i have so far downloaded APO and Peace. am I going in the right direction? dont know what to do now....
Link to AutoEQ GitHub Repo . Read through the instructions on this repositiory and it'll get you squared away.
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 2:06 PM Post #4,883 of 7,074
Jeeez ...
LCD-4 Signature rocks!

Screenshot_20220406-200348_Neutron Player.jpg
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:35 PM Post #4,884 of 7,074
Jeeez ...
LCD-4 Signature rocks!

Screenshot_20220406-200348_Neutron Player.jpg
It’s amazing how good the LCD-4’s still sound! In actuality, the LCD-4’s and LCD-5’s are very complementary headphones. One is extremely musical and engaging, LCD-4, the other is highly resolving, transparent, more true to source, LCD-5.
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:36 PM Post #4,885 of 7,074
would like to begin to understand how to use this. Please explain what needs to be done. i have so far downloaded APO and Peace. am I going in the right direction? dont know what to do now....

I posted this earlier in the thread.

Download Equalizer APO
Download Peace GUI
Install
Assign to dac of choice in EAPO configurator
Restart
Open Peace
Play with sliders
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:39 PM Post #4,886 of 7,074
I still can't believe it.
This "LCD-4 like" preset, seems to work much better on the LCD-5, than Harman target.

How did you come up with this? Do you have an LCD4 that you are able to a/b and derive from or was this just made from it's frequency response target?
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:46 PM Post #4,887 of 7,074
Apr 6, 2022 at 3:58 PM Post #4,888 of 7,074
It’s amazing how good the LCD-4’s still sound! In actuality, the LCD-4’s and LCD-5’s are very complementary headphones. One is extremely musical and engaging, LCD-4, the other is highly resolving, transparent, more true to source, LCD-5.
I've been listening to the "LCD-4" preset for about 5 hours now,
and I'm "positively confused".
With these settings, the LCD-5 finally sounds the way it should.
I'm just saying that now.
I don't know how to explain it, but somehow the driver doesn't seem to harmonize so well with Harman.
In my opinion, the tonality that the LCD-4 has out-of-the-box is much more coherent.
I can only advise every LCD-5 owner,
to try out this setting.
Of course with a certain brain-burn-in phase.

There was one thing that bothered me the whole time about the LCD-5,
and that was an over-presence in the upper mids - lower treble (black circle)
a certain tendency to sharpness ,
that I couldn't quite get a grip on.

Red: LCD-5
Blue: LCD-4
Screenshot_20220406-220801_Gallery.jpg

But with the said settings, this has completely disappeared!
This is what the LCD-5 sounds like
"high-resolution analog"!
Yes, this strange description just popped into my head.
 
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Apr 6, 2022 at 4:16 PM Post #4,889 of 7,074
I've been listening to the "LCD-4" preset for about 5 hours now,
and I'm "positively confused".
With these settings, the LCD-5 finally sounds the way it should.
I'm just saying that now.
I don't know how to explain it, but somehow the driver doesn't seem to harmonize so well with Harman.
In my opinion, the tonality that the LCD-4 has out-of-the-box is much more coherent.
I can only advise every LCD-5 owner,
to try out this setting.
Of course with a certain brain-burn-in phase.

There was one thing that bothered me the whole time about the LCD-5,
and that was an over-presence in the upper mids - lower treble (black circle)
a certain tendency to sharpness ,
that I couldn't quite get a grip on.

Red: LCD-5
Blue: LCD-4
Screenshot_20220406-220801_Gallery.jpg
But with the said settings, this has completely disappeared!
This is what the LCD-5 sounds like
"high-resolution analog"!
Yes, this strange description just popped into my head.
The Harman target is not for everyone, especially after about 3khz. There is a new-ish tool by "Rosha" that allows you to create overlays of FR plots, and use a mock-EQ to see what EQ changes may do to the FR:

https://rohsa.gitlab.io/graphtool/

You can upload CSV files from FR plots. This could be a useful tool to use if you want to try to tune the LCD-5 (or any headphone) to another target.
 
Apr 6, 2022 at 4:19 PM Post #4,890 of 7,074
The Harman target is not for everyone, especially after about 3khz. There is a new-ish tool by "Rosha" that allows you to create overlays of FR plots, and use a mock-EQ to see what EQ changes may do to the FR:

https://rohsa.gitlab.io/graphtool/

You can upload CSV files from FR plots. This could be a useful tool to use if you want to try to tune the LCD-5 (or any headphone) to another target.
Also, I could not find the .CSV FR file for the LCD-5, so if someone wanted to provide a link / pastebin of the data that would be appreciated.
 

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