Attn: Foobar2000 users (CROSSFEED plugin headsup)

[donunus]

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Originally Posted by taso89 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I found that the way the Naive crossfeed plug-in adjusted for "human ear absorption" made the soundstage more fatiguing and unpleasant. I think Bauer is better explained and has some science behind it, at stock it sounds a little too mono but at the Cmoy preset it's very pleasant to listen to (and that's the point of crossfeed anyway).

Is it unpleasant to you because of the added brightness? It just happens to be a nice match for my current system which is why I don't mind the extra brightness. I tried Naive before and it bothered me too used with a different rig. Anyway, as far as just the crossfeed is concerned(not the tonality side effect), both plugins are actually pretty similar when sliders are adjusted to have the same amount of effect.

 

[leeperry]

yes, the default naive sounds very supportive to the brain...but I think I still prefer it w/ the 3 min. settings. too bad they keep crackling

I'll look for an alternative today, such as the 4Front : http://www.yohng.com/goodies/headphonesvst.zip

 

[donunus]

tried the 4front a long time ago. maybe 2004/2005. It zuuuucked. Wonder how it is today if its been updated.

Thats weird that you hear crackling on the naive. I don't have that problem with mine.

 

[leeperry]

well, I'm quite crazy about the Ennio Morricone OST's....and they sound really mono w/ the stock naive settings.

I dunno why the damn thing crackles when I set them to the minimum....anyway, I will look into VST plugins. that's the pinnacle of audio plugins

PS: if I set the naive settings to one third, it seems to be a good in-between...I hope it won't crackle.

 

[leeperry]

this one looks quite good : Refined Audiometrics Laboratory

this is 30 degrees, naive is 60

I don't run any test at this point, I just know that my brain goes AWOL w/o any crossfeed...so I try to make it happy

 

[donunus]

I'll give it a try

 

[leeperry]

well, this one looks better : VNoPhones - The Sonic Spot

you can set the crossfeed % and the delay...I like to control this kind of things, and it sounds very clear! yet my brain doesn't complain

 

[donunus]

try that one too. by the way, how do i use the one above that. Do i get the vst wrapper or something?

 

[leeperry]

you need this : foobar2000 3rd party components

I've set the Vellocet plugin to 4.444%/1.289ms...so far so good!

I don't want the effect to be audible, I just want my brain to stop whining

 

[donunus]

whoah i love the first one at first listen. a little added bass which is not unwelcome for the cans but i like the effect so far

 

[leeperry]

the last one w/ 3.703% and 1.03ms seems fantastic.

no mono-effect and no brain-whining...I got a winner I think

 

[donunus]

how do you get that exact? the top is % and bottom is ms?

 

[leeperry]

that's what the manual in the zip file says

I suggest you try what he says there, it's good to get a hang of the 2 settings.

 

[donunus]

the other plugin is really good for me. wow the extra bass is also a perfect match with the ad900s while the crossfeed is about the same as the naive. Love it so far!

 

[leeperry]

the second one is more transparent I think, ideally I want a crossfeed plugin that you can't ABX...I'm aiming at a subliminal DSP to keep my neurons happy. nothing more.