Astell&Kern new flagship A&Ultima SP2000
Sep 11, 2019 at 4:00 AM Post #871 of 5,840
Due to the 2.5 putting out more volts and MW.
Of course :) there are no denied.
But in sp2k the DAC output section is separated between SE and BAL then the case may be different.
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 6:24 AM Post #873 of 5,840
Copper and coating look completely different from the SP1000Cu. The coating of the SP2000Cu seems to be either very thin or even non-existent. The copper is darker and less shiny. Judge for yourself from the following pictures.

This is the back of the SP2000Cu after touching it for one or two minutes. Fingertips are clearly visible, in real world even more than visible on the picture.

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This is how the SP2000Cu looks after cleaning with a clean and dry kitchen paper for approximately 10 seconds. Note the tarnished copper rubbed off on the kitchen paper. The last letter "a" from "A&ultima" is already dark grey/black from tarnished copper rub-off.

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This is a picture of Nomax' SP1000Cu amp.

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Mmm....not overly concerned with my sp2k cu. Haven’t taken it out of the leather case since the first hour of usage and I will never take it out ever unless something bad happens to the leather case and it needs replacing.
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 6:25 AM Post #874 of 5,840
Copper and coating look completely different from the SP1000Cu. The coating of the SP2000Cu seems to be either very thin or even non-existent. The copper is darker and less shiny. Judge for yourself from the following pictures.

This is the back of the SP2000Cu after touching it for one or two minutes. Fingertips are clearly visible, in real world even more than visible on the picture.

36730168dq.jpg


This is how the SP2000Cu looks after cleaning with a clean and dry kitchen paper for approximately 10 seconds. Note the tarnished copper rubbed off on the kitchen paper. The last letter "a" from "A&ultima" is already dark grey/black from tarnished copper rub-off.

36730169bh.jpg


This is a picture of Nomax' SP1000Cu amp.

36730170gi.jpg
@JasonNYC will this not so „little“ problem be addressed in the production process of the next SP2000cu batch? What do you say to that oxidation???
 
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Sep 11, 2019 at 6:26 AM Post #875 of 5,840
So cover the "beauty" with dead skin ?
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 7:36 AM Post #878 of 5,840
....so the question is...when i wipe with a clean cloth over sp1000...no black on the cloth...when i wipe over the Sp2000...the cloth is black...why?lol

Its not the same Quality as Sp1000

NOMAX
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 7:46 AM Post #879 of 5,840
Sep 11, 2019 at 7:55 AM Post #880 of 5,840
Just got had a listen to the store display that just arrived today and did a lot of A/B between the SPk and SP2k with the Utopia, Sony Z1R, Sony EX1000 and CA Andromedas. They all improved in different parts. The general consensus in my opinion is the upper end of vocals (female vocals) and highs have more air to it, so better separation and clarity. To me this was quite noticeable.

I heard a noticeable improvement in bass bloom and decay on the over ears: Utopia and Z1R, but on all the IEMs it was the just the upper end of vocals and highs that have cleaned up and spaced out better.

The andromedas on balanced had a very nice 3D effect to the vocals which the EX1000 didn't benefit from, this was a really pleasant surprise and noticeable difference.

I don't think the difference between them is subtle for the most part, I think it's noticeable enough. Power is also a big difference, when volume matched by ear on balanced for the IEMs, I was listening to 38 on the SPK, but only 26 on the SP2K.

Just my 2c, I'm deciding now whether the huge price difference between the SPK and SP2K is worth it, because the store gave me a very cheap price on the SPK. I have the SPK offered at almost half price.

Hope this helps anyone looking for opinions.
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 8:49 AM Post #881 of 5,840
So cover the "beauty" with dead skin ?

Mm...yup dead skin. Dead cow skin. Pleasant to touch. Pleasant to caress.

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Just installed the apk for Tidal offline. No problem. Works. Downloading 428 tracks so far. Tomorrow, flacs wavs dsd etc.

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SP2K cu + Erlkonig (setting 3) + Tidal master Star Wars The Last Jedi = iMax theater on my ears. Incredible.
 
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Sep 11, 2019 at 12:34 PM Post #882 of 5,840
Just got had a listen to the store display that just arrived today and did a lot of A/B between the SPk and SP2k with the Utopia, Sony Z1R, Sony EX1000 and CA Andromedas. They all improved in different parts. The general consensus in my opinion is the upper end of vocals (female vocals) and highs have more air to it, so better separation and clarity. To me this was quite noticeable.

I heard a noticeable improvement in bass bloom and decay on the over ears: Utopia and Z1R, but on all the IEMs it was the just the upper end of vocals and highs that have cleaned up and spaced out better.

The andromedas on balanced had a very nice 3D effect to the vocals which the EX1000 didn't benefit from, this was a really pleasant surprise and noticeable difference.

I don't think the difference between them is subtle for the most part, I think it's noticeable enough. Power is also a big difference, when volume matched by ear on balanced for the IEMs, I was listening to 38 on the SPK, but only 26 on the SP2K.

Just my 2c, I'm deciding now whether the huge price difference between the SPK and SP2K is worth it, because the store gave me a very cheap price on the SPK. I have the SPK offered at almost half price.

Hope this helps anyone looking for opinions.

Thanks for your impressions and and useful information , as this helps tremendously
Cheers
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 10:49 PM Post #883 of 5,840
Will be going back today to compare the SP2000 against the Hugo 2 (USB input from my phone, I don't have my 3.5mm coax cable with me) with my Fitear MH335DWSR. I didn't have it with me yesterday. Will report back on this post.
 
Sep 11, 2019 at 11:17 PM Post #884 of 5,840
Mm...yup dead skin. Dead cow skin. Pleasant to touch. Pleasant to caress.

——————

Just installed the apk for Tidal offline. No problem. Works. Downloading 428 tracks so far. Tomorrow, flacs wavs dsd etc.

——————

SP2K cu + Erlkonig (setting 3) + Tidal master Star Wars The Last Jedi = iMax theater on my ears. Incredible.


Raypin, can you tell me more about those Erlkonig you mention ? Can you post picture please ? Is it the new "universal" model ? are you using the stock cable ? have you other IEMs and how they compare to them or to your top closed Headphones ?

Also, on another subjet, have you ordered the ZMF Verite Closed? I will be interested to her your feeling about when plugged into the SP1000/SP2000 and.... the Sony DMP-Z1. I still have not found my perfect closed back headphone. I need a very good "very isolating" headphone.

thanks in advance
 
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Sep 12, 2019 at 3:32 AM Post #885 of 5,840
Raypin, can you tell me more about those Erlkonig you mention ? Can you post picture please ? Is it the new "universal" model ? are you using the stock cable ? have you other IEMs and how they compare to them or to your top closed Headphones ?

Also, on another subjet, have you ordered the ZMF Verite Closed? I will be interested to her your feeling about when plugged into the SP1000/SP2000 and.... the Sony DMP-Z1. I still have not found my perfect closed back headphone. I need a very good "very isolating" headphone.

thanks in advance

Mm...launched in2018...it is Vision Ears first universal flagship...13 BA drivers (4 highs, 4 mids, 4 lows and a pair of supertweeters)...solid silver shell with 4 adjustable sound types....silver cable by Effect Audio. By far, it is ,to ears, my best in-ears ever.

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