Feb 16, 2016 at 5:34 PM Post #3,556 of 9,057
 
hykhleif:
 
No, sorry, I don't have the oppo pm1.  Recently I've been listening to IEMs, exclusively.  My favorite, so far, is the JH Angie.  I've ordered CIEMs from Empire Ears, but the first set was apparently lost by USPS.  Hopefully the replacements will be here shortly.  As for the Angies and the AK380 -- it's hard to imagine any IEM could sound better.  My over the ears are HD600s.  Haven't used them in months.

i was about to order the angie but the adel u12 won me over for the new adel tech, although i did not hear both so it was blind purchase as usual since here where i live we can not audition iems and if you things you are stuck with them
 
Feb 16, 2016 at 10:21 PM Post #3,557 of 9,057
It is quite obvious what AK is doing. 
 
Their profit, like all other digital products company, rely on rapid product cycles. They are not unlike Apple or Samsung or LG or any other electronics company for this matter, which all have steady product cycles. Like some have already mentioned, every September there will be a new iPhone, every November there will be a new Google Nexus, and Sony has been coming out with a new iteration of their RX100 camera for four years straight now - all with very predictable and stable product cycles. This is all understandable as companies will go bankrupt if everyone sits on their iPhone 4 and use it for 5 years before upgrading. That is why the hype and marketing are so strong surrounding every new release, to make existing owners lust after that new shiny thing. Creating a 'must own the latest TOTL' mentality in customers goes a long way in profiting all these companies. Of course we have also heard about hardware specifically created to last only 2 - 3 years, or smartphone companies killing performance of their legacy devices with new firmware, indirectly stimulating new purchases from users who succumb to the consumerist culture less severely. 
 
However, AK differs in a couple of ways:
 
1) They are in a niche market segment. Almost everyone owns smartphones these days, but not everyone owns even something like the AK Jr (let alone the $3500 AK380 or the even more $$ Cu version). With such a smaller market, AK will have to rely on MUCH steeper profit margins and a much more rapid product cycle to make up for the tiny market.
 
2) The 'must own the brand new shiny TOTL thing' mentality is especially strong in audiophile circles, compared to ordinary people with no obsession about certain hobbies. Knowing this intimately, and with a 65% market share (quoted from AK / iRiver's management in mid 2015) of the audiophile DAP market, AK is surely to take advantage of this and abuse this before the competition grows and the market is too saturated (a lot of competing DAPs are coming out as of late: Plenue S, DP-X1 ...).
 
Having understood this, it isn't difficult to understand why AK does not 'announce the whole lineup' and let customers choose right at the beginning, it wouldn't make any business sense. The correct way to do it is to release flagships every year or 18 months, then during that period release special 'versions', limited editions, different material constructions (to keep their most wealthy customers entertained) until sufficient time has passed and they can justify moving on to another TOTL flagship again. There are some very wealthy and loyal AK customers who suck this up like nothing and who view money as no object, in fact they gain satisfaction from instantly acquiring the latest variation of the TOTL / a new TOTL before everyone else. A customer at my local shop is already anxious to instantly get his hands on the first Copper amp and is breathing down the neck of all the staff but to his dismay it hasn't arrived yet.
 
The only way to stop this is if enough audiophiles stop buying their latest and greatest TOTL (through being content with what they already own) and the sales numbers will get that message to AK in the most practical of ways. But this is Head Fi and we all know that it aint' gonna happen.
 
Lastly, I append below this, which is self-explanatory: 
 

 
Pay attention to 'received many request from copper user to make its own amp ...'. This proves that there is still a strong market willing to buy whatever AK releases, no matter the cost. According to this, and if this is true, these users even 'demanded' it. So AK is now the innocent victim here, they did decided no copper amp but hey, the copper users 'forced their hand'. Marvelous, just splendid 
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Feb 16, 2016 at 11:23 PM Post #3,560 of 9,057
I think the best mindset to hold is AK are similar to high performance or exotic car brand, Porsche, Ferrari for example. Its a luxury item and this seems to clash with regular consumers of a Mazda or Ford car (portable audio levels). I can't say I agree with AK's marketing and pricing but what I have learn't to do is accept it just as I'd accept a Ferrari pulling up next to me at the lights.
 
Feb 16, 2016 at 11:24 PM Post #3,561 of 9,057
mmm......re: cu amp. I posted in AK FB inquiring about the cu amp. I got a reply saying that there are no plans to release a cu amp. I'm confused?? But if they are releasing a cu amp, will it sound differently than the standard 380/320 amp?
 
Feb 16, 2016 at 11:26 PM Post #3,562 of 9,057
   But if they are releasing a cu amp, will it sound differently than the standard 380/320 amp?

 
Same question I have.  Will be interesting to see whether they just rewrap the AK380 amp in copper or will they improve it before release.
 
Feb 17, 2016 at 12:01 AM Post #3,564 of 9,057
I was told that, we need to wait until next month at the earliest, for the Cu amps to reach stores in Hong Kong.

Anyone going to Canjam Singapore this weekend?
 
Feb 17, 2016 at 12:03 AM Post #3,565 of 9,057
Like the slogan goes for illegal poaching and hunting. When the buying stops, the killing does too.
 
Feb 17, 2016 at 3:30 AM Post #3,566 of 9,057
Spent about 45 mins this afternoon comparing the 380 Cu with the stock 380........same sonic improvements for me on Cu, with both players on FW 1.19
 

 
Feb 17, 2016 at 3:44 AM Post #3,567 of 9,057
  Spent about 45 mins this afternoon comparing the 380 Cu with the stock 380........same sonic improvements for me on Cu, with both players on FW 1.19
 

same sonic improvement as what? 
 
Feb 17, 2016 at 4:06 AM Post #3,569 of 9,057
  Spent about 45 mins this afternoon comparing the 380 Cu with the stock 380........same sonic improvements for me on Cu, with both players on FW 1.19
 

Thanks to this comment, I am now officially broke... 
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