Android phones and USB DACs
Oct 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM Post #3,302 of 9,526
"The SA9027 [USB receiver of the Stoner Acoustics UD110] is a high performance up to 32bit USB Full-Speed compliant audio steaming."
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.464489280310872.1073741834.461033923989741&type=1
 
Theoretically, a USB 2.0 hub has a transaction translator (TT).
The transaction translator should convert the USB 1.1 full-speed traffic only supported by the UD110 to the USB 2.0 high-speed traffic also supported by the Galaxy S4.
 
 

 

 
 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-technology,677-3.html 
 
USB 2.0 / USB 1.1 Galaxy S4 <=> USB 1.1 full-speed <=> USB 1.1 UD110
USB 2.0 / USB 1.1 Galaxy S4 <=> USB 2.0 high-speed <=> USB hub TT <=> USB 1.1 full-speed <=> USB 1.1 UD110
 
Apparently, the USB 1.1 full-speed dialog between the S4 and the UD110 has some issue.
Using the USB hub introduces a USB 2.0 high-speed dialog which gets around the issue.
 
Oct 20, 2013 at 4:45 AM Post #3,303 of 9,526
DanBa, just to exclude all other possible causes - are we sure it's not a power issue here? Remember, I was reporting about an issue with Xperia Sola and RSA Predator, where an introduction of non-powered usb hub solved the compatibility issue just because the hub was reporting to the host as needing 0 mA (no power draw), whereas the Predator was claiming the whole 500mA, merely needing 50?
 
Just checking...
 
Oct 20, 2013 at 6:44 AM Post #3,304 of 9,526
Unlike the Xperia Sola, the Galaxy S4 can directly work with the FiiO E17, i.e. 500 mA-required USB DAC.
The FiiO E17 requires 500 mA; and a USB peripheral like a USB DAC may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (i.e. 500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0.
 
Configuration Descriptor:
wTotalLength:       0x00EF
bNumInterfaces:       0x03
bConfigurationValue:  0x01
iConfiguration:       0x00
bmAttributes:         0x80 (Bus Powered )
MaxPower:             0xFA (500 mA)
 
But I am not sure of anything without analysing some dmesg log output and USB descriptors of the Stoner Acoustics UD110.
 
About dmesg log output:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/630#post_8812990
 
About USB descriptor view tool:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2025#post_9320708
 
Oct 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM Post #3,306 of 9,526
DanBa:

Awhile ago, you mentioned using a Qi charger.  Have you tried this in tandem with an external DAC and, if so, can you actually charge your S3 while listening to music through the micro-USB port?
 
Oct 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM Post #3,307 of 9,526
Sorry, I don’t have yet a Qi wireless charging for my new Galaxy Note 3, because the Note 3 S-View wireless charging cover is not yet available in France.
I think wireless charging the smartphone while streaming music through its micro USB port won’t have any problem.
 
Qi wireless charging car mount:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734
 
"CarPad is Qi functional and works well with the Nexus 4. Tested both with TPU case, Diztronic Matte Black Case, Official Bumper, and bare-back. The average charge on an idle phone is around +600mA and with load of Spotify streaming music, Android GPS navigation, BlueTooth connected to head-unit, and screen on at lowest brightness, the charger gets nearly +100-200mA".
 
 
 
 
Oct 22, 2013 at 1:11 PM Post #3,312 of 9,526
Hi,
 
I just connected samsung galaxy s 3 via usb otg to fiio e07k and it works fine. I reconnected it many times and it works all the time.
 
My sgs 3 is with siyah kernel, android 4.1.2., I'm from Poland so I quess it's interantional or european version of sgs 3.
 
I'm not sure if I can hear any SQ improvement with my akg k404.
 
Oct 24, 2013 at 5:00 AM Post #3,314 of 9,526
Sorry guys, would need help to know if the LG G2 works with digital out via otg, hoping to pair with a Glacier. Am moving from iphone 5 to android, so trying to decide and figure out which phone would work with the Glacier
 
Oct 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM Post #3,315 of 9,526
Hey guys,
Wondering if some can answer this for me. i've searched but couldn't find the answer.
i have a stock Sprint Galaxy S3. i also have a subscription to google play music all access.
Can i use an external DAC specifically for this app?
thanks
 

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