Android phones and USB DACs
Oct 1, 2014 at 7:37 AM Post #5,431 of 9,526
I'm afraid that if the s3 works as the note 2 you have to buy the uapp: maybe the cable is fine, it's just the wrong player. I've bought from Amazon 2 different otg cables, one cheap from China, broken at the arrival, changed by the seller with another that lasted a week, then another one branded startech, still using it everyday.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM Post #5,433 of 9,526
Would you still have that link to the star tech cable so I'm sure I'm getting what has worked for you?

sure, here: http://amzn.com/B00B4GGW5Q
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 10:36 AM Post #5,434 of 9,526
  Quotation is the repetition of someone else's statement or thoughts. Quotation marks are punctuation marks used in text to indicate the words of another speaker or writer. Both of these words are sometimes abbreviated as "quote(s)".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quote

I was poking fun, didn't you notice the smiley? 
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 As much as you might want to, I'm sure that you're not going to buy every DAC in sight.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM Post #5,435 of 9,526
  With the Drragonfly, volume is set in the analogue domain of the DAC/amplifier on the base of control information sent over the USB protocol; there would be no benefit to send 24bit bandwidth for 16/44.1 flacs saved from ripped CDs.
 
Reto

 The DragonFly's onboard 64-position analog-domain volume is a good feature : how are you sure that the OS or the player (in the case of UAPP) correctly uses the USB audio class 1 protocole ? Are you sure that the analog volume control is initiated and it is not a division in the PCM audio stream ?
 
(sry for my english)
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 2:24 PM Post #5,437 of 9,526
  ive been out of the loop for a while.
 
but i got a dragonfly dac v1.2 and i want to use it with my galaxy s3(using neutron or whatever other music player). i do have an otg cable but as far as i can tell, it is not the id pin grounded version.
 
my question is, where can i get the otg id pin grounded cable? i would prefer getting it from amazon (more flexible shipment address deliver options).
tia.

 
A post about the USB OTG adapter / USB OTG adapter cable for the DragonFly:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5340#post_10875563
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 2:27 PM Post #5,438 of 9,526
  I was poking fun, didn't you notice the smiley? 
biggrin.gif
 As much as you might want to, I'm sure that you're not going to buy every DAC in sight.

 
I had no problem with your question with smiley or not smiley.
I took this opportunity to remind people that almost all devices I report on this thread are not mine: more details can be found or asked by following the link to the source of the reporting information.
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 5:06 PM Post #5,439 of 9,526
   The DragonFly's onboard 64-position analog-domain volume is a good feature : how are you sure that the OS or the player (in the case of UAPP) correctly uses the USB audio class 1 protocole ? Are you sure that the analog volume control is initiated and it is not a division in the PCM audio stream ?
 
(sry for my english)

 
Hmmm... in French we way: on ne peut être sûr de rien - you cannot be sure of anything. Also technological miracles must be questionned.
 
I am just repeating what I read about volume control.
 
Now, I also observe that the volume of applications other than UAPP are automatically set to the max when the DF is connected, so I suppose that volume is managed by a two way transfer like the control transfer and not the one way isochronous transfer used by audio data. With UAPP, I must use the volume slider of the application; since the system volume (the rocking switch on the side of my S5) is disabled, I suppose that the slider controls actually the system volume.
 
Yet this is only a guess. Informations are welcome...!
 
Reto
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 5:39 PM Post #5,440 of 9,526
Anyone did a comparison between sabre from hifmediy and stoner acoustics? I bought the sabre for android from hifmediy but is only 16bits, really changed the quality sound if my smartphone, so i want to go to next level, the 24bits dac... Which is better and works on android with uapp?
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 5:47 PM Post #5,441 of 9,526
  sure, here: http://amzn.com/B00B4GGW5Q

 
did you choose the 5inch version? im assuming both are grounded right?
 
   
A post about the USB OTG adapter / USB OTG adapter cable for the DragonFly:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/5340#post_10875563

 
thanks for this. so based on your post, i should pick the adapter from here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4GGW5Q/ref=cm_sw_su_dp?tag=headfiorg-20
 
or am i reading it wrong that both startech 5inch and adapter would work? 
 
Oct 1, 2014 at 6:16 PM Post #5,442 of 9,526
   
did you choose the 5inch version? im assuming both are grounded right?
 
 
thanks for this. so based on your post, i should pick the adapter from here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B4GGW5Q/ref=cm_sw_su_dp?tag=headfiorg-20
 
or am i reading it wrong that both startech 5inch and adapter would work? 

I guess they have to be grounded to be considered OTG, not really into this things, I simply put them on, they work, voila'.
I've got the 5 inch thingy only because at the time the shorter adapter wasn't available, I've just placed the order for the adapter, it should arrive soon and hopefully give to my portable set up a better look. 
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 6:01 PM Post #5,443 of 9,526
Hello guys, can you recommend some powered usb hub that could work with a dac on android? To charge my smartphone and at th same time use the dac?

 
A setup using a non-compliant USB hub, that can power the USB host (i.e. Galaxy S4) via the upstream port:
http://www.ivancreations.com/2014/06/car-cassette-head-unit-becomes-dock-for-galaxy-s4.html
 
Galaxy S4 >> 64.9kOhm USB OTG/ACA cable (i.e. "dock cable") >> powered USB hub >> simple USB sound card (i.e. DAC) >> Grundig WKC 1704 car audio >> speakers
 
A USB sound card:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dynamode-USB-Sound-Card-7/dp/B003QADH9C?tag=amazonsearchshop-20
 

 

 
 
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 6:11 PM Post #5,444 of 9,526
A setup using a non-compliant USB hub, that can power the USB host (i.e. Galaxy S4) via the upstream port:


http://www.ivancreations.com/2014/06/car-cassette-head-unit-becomes-dock-for-galaxy-s4.html


 


Galaxy S4 >> 64.9kOhm USB OTG/ACA cable (i.e. "dock cable") >> powered USB hub >> simple USB sound card (i.e. DAC) >> Grundig WKC 1704 car audio >> speakers


 


A USB sound card:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dynamode-USB-Sound-Card-7/dp/B003QADH9C?tag=amazonsearchshop-20


 













 


Molodets!!!

That is absolutely epic! Great job!
 
Oct 2, 2014 at 7:20 PM Post #5,445 of 9,526
   
A setup using a non-compliant USB hub, that can power the USB host (i.e. Galaxy S4) via the upstream port:
http://www.ivancreations.com/2014/06/car-cassette-head-unit-becomes-dock-for-galaxy-s4.html
 
Galaxy S4 >> 64.9kOhm USB OTG/ACA cable (i.e. "dock cable") >> powered USB hub >> simple USB sound card (i.e. DAC) >> Grundig WKC 1704 car audio >> speakers
 
A USB sound card:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dynamode-USB-Sound-Card-7/dp/B003QADH9C?tag=amazonsearchshop-20
 

 

 
 


 
i see your using aux. is there a way to use the usb port instead? i seem to get much better sound using the usb (with a usb drive) than aux
 

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