Android phones and USB DACs
Mar 10, 2015 at 6:24 PM Post #6,436 of 9,526
Why the paid version of Onkyo HF player? The separated USB driver is in the free edition included only limited to 16/44 music output which is not a problem if you don't want to use 24bit playback.
 
Mar 10, 2015 at 7:31 PM Post #6,438 of 9,526
Android USB audio
 
Information search:
1. Click on the following link
https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22XY%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F595071%2Fandroid-phones-and-usb-dacs
2. Replace XY by your search keyword(s).
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
 
A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android 5.0 Lollipop:
stock Google Nexus X running on Android 5.0 Lollipop > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/x3loEQ
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note4:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/gnmvuf
 
USB DAC descriptors:
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu
 
The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x
 


 
Mar 10, 2015 at 7:35 PM Post #6,439 of 9,526
  Why the paid version of Onkyo HF player? The separated USB driver is in the free edition included only limited to 16/44 music output which is not a problem if you don't want to use 24bit playback.

 
The free version of Onkyo HF Player can play 44.1kHz music file, but the USB DAC receives only 48kHz PCM audio flow.
It is also the case of the paid version when Onkyo USB HF Driver is disabled.
 
Like generic music players, they are interfacing with the Android media player framework which can only output 48kHz PCM audio flow for the time being.
 
Mar 11, 2015 at 3:33 AM Post #6,440 of 9,526
Regarding the Oppo - it comes with an OTG cable. I used both the one it comes with and my own, both worked (and sounded identical, as far as I could ascertain within the confines of a limited audition).
 
Mar 11, 2015 at 9:17 AM Post #6,442 of 9,526
1295$ : it predominatingly kills your bank account :rolleyes:


Flow ($1300) and 1TB mSata SSD ($450) costs nearly $1700.
But this is better than any other portable devices you can buy. 1TB SSD is the fastest and the biggest. Flow sounds nearly as good as AK240. Your smartphone's HibyApp is much better than DAP's UI. I don't think I will need anything else. It can be the ultimate portable solution.
 
Mar 12, 2015 at 2:33 AM Post #6,444 of 9,526
Flow ($1300) and 1TB mSata SSD ($450) costs nearly $1700.
But this is better than any other portable devices you can buy. 1TB SSD is the fastest and the biggest. Flow sounds nearly as good as AK240. Your smartphone's HibyApp is much better than DAP's UI. I don't think I will need anything else. It can be the ultimate portable solution.


Last I saw Currawong was mostly rating the Flow over the AK 240.
 
Mar 12, 2015 at 5:48 AM Post #6,445 of 9,526
Last I saw Currawong was mostly rating the Flow over the AK 240.


AK240 can get max 456GB with that new 200GB microSD card which will come out during this July. The thing is, they're not as fast as mSATA SSD. mSATA is much faster. Perhaps, 90MB/s on PC? and more stable. If Flow sounds better than AK240, I would say Flow is the best portable solution available today.
 
Mar 12, 2015 at 3:09 PM Post #6,447 of 9,526
   
How fast do you think it needs to be and why?


Do you know how long it takes to move 256GB of files to an SD card or flash drive of a DAP??
It takes quite long...
While this mSATA SSD is close to drag and drop. It doesn't matter how big an album is. It can transfer 24bit 192kHz albums in a second.
Especially, when you have 1TB of albums in 24bit FLAC, it's crucial to have a faster storage.
 
Mar 12, 2015 at 3:21 PM Post #6,449 of 9,526
 
Do you know how long it takes to move 256GB of files to an SD card or flash drive of a DAP??
It takes quite long...
While this mSATA SSD is close to drag and drop. It doesn't matter how big an album is. It can transfer 24bit 192kHz albums in a second.
Especially, when you have 1TB of albums in 24bit FLAC, it's crucial to have a faster storage.

How often do most of us drag files as once there it stays? One can always let it copy while eating dinner, for those infrequent times. For all the other times of access one doesn't need hair raising transfer rates. But if someone wants superspeed, it's there for them, just open the wallet for a beating.
 
Mar 12, 2015 at 3:28 PM Post #6,450 of 9,526
I would prefer one good mSATA SSD over several SD cards.
 
But how often do you need to do that? It seems like an odd justification for a very high price.

 
Don't start on me. A 512GB SD card from Sandisk costs $599. A 1TB (1000GB) mSATA SSD from Samsung costs $450 or less.
512GB mSATA SSDs are around $200 or less. Are you kidding me? It will take at least ten years for SD cards to catch up mSATA SSD
 
mSATA SSD is far superior to SD cards. If you don't know much about technology, that's your fault.
Try to research. A 200GB microSD card from Sandisk will be $399. One mSATA SSD is as small as two SD cards.
 

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