[x RELIC x]

I would think they must have had trouble with this product. I dunno, mine works fine, I have no issues with it. Maybe its production cost made it less profitable. They don't really have any new version or anything that would replace it... They made it easier for one who were thinking of buying one or fireflies, now you have to go with fireflies... which is not such a bad choice, but tubes are more expensive...

Not to mention way less options for tubes on the WA7.

 

[R Scott Ireland]

Dunno why. They've moved on from some of their other portables and replaced with newer versions, but I don't know if this is the case here.

I would grab one while you can if you want one. It's a great little amp that sounds very nice (especially with Audeze cans).

 
I already own one, and I like it so much that I've ordered another one, while they're still available, as a backup.

 

[TontonJoK]

Alo pan am for life

It might become a collector

I don't understand why such a brilliant amp is getting out of the Alo audio line :mad:

And I'm also very happy to have one

 

[LFC_SL]

The Pan Am was the first modular product for Alo. Any company always learn something from the first xyz concept, whether a success or failure.

That the Pan Am is being discontinued does not invalidate customers who bought in. And neither does it mean Alo have not taken something away from the Pan Am that will not have influenced the future product roadmap, whether the immediate plans or more far off in the years down the line.

Maybe the ideas will not live on in some manner. Perhaps Ken just feels differently now and there is no business or technical rationale.

 

[Sound Eq]

   
Can't speak to the XC's, but the Pan Am drives my LCD-3's beautifully. Plenty of power to spare.
 
In fact, I just got a Chord Hugo, and while the LCD-3's sound really good directly out of it, they sound better when the Hugo is fed through the Pan Am with it's extra power. That combo sounded wonderful.
 
To give some comparison, I also fed the Hugo through my beloved Rx-Mk3-B+ and this amp, powerful though it is, added nothing - the sound was better directly from the Hugo amp.

can u really say the pan am is better for audeze than hugo, what did pan am add to audeze that the hugo didn't 

 

[R Scott Ireland]

can u really say the pan am is better for audeze than hugo, what did pan am add to audeze that the hugo didn't 

No, I can't claim that it is better. At the time I listened to it, it sounded a little better to me through the Pan Am. Maybe it was the tube coloration with the LCD-3's. I currently use the Hugo as a portable setup feeding my LCD-X's directly and I would be hard pressed to claim that anything I have sounds noticeably better. But then again I haven't spent time testing the Hugo with the GS-X mk2 or the Liquid Glass either, so maybe . . .

 

[Sound Eq]

No, I can't claim that it is better. At the time I listened to it, it sounded a little better to me through the Pan Am. Maybe it was the tube coloration with the LCD-3's. I currently use the Hugo as a portable setup feeding my LCD-X's directly and I would be hard pressed to claim that anything I have sounds noticeably better. But then again I haven't spent time testing the Hugo with the GS-X mk2 or the Liquid Glass either, so maybe . . .

so which sounds better with the hugo lcd 3 or lcd2
 
again is the pan am worth buying if u have the hugo

 

[R Scott Ireland]

so which sounds better with the hugo lcd 3 or lcd2

again is the pan am worth buying if u have the hugo

I don't have an LCD-2, but both the LCD-3 and LCD-X both sound excellent with the Hugo. I slightly prefer the LCD-X with it since I listen to almost all Classical.

Can't really say about whether you should get a Pan Am or not.

 

[hardbop]

I'm going into my third week with this little amp and I am still blown away by it.
 
I just rolled in the Mullard tubes and I quite like them. They sound smooth, if a little sibilant and details are the best out of what I've heard so far.
 
The RTC's were okay. Not enough bass impact and lacking in details. Highs are twinkly and they have pretty good sound staging.
 
The stock tubes have great bass, warmth and good detail and it only had to sacrifice a little of the sound stage.
 
I've been using one set each week, to burn them in a little and get a taste of what they can offer. I think I'll do the Voshkods next and I still have the Sylvanias and Telefunkens after that.

 

[BattousaiX26]

  I'm going into my third week with this little amp and I am still blown away by it.
 
I just rolled in the Mullard tubes and I quite like them. They sound smooth, if a little sibilant and details are the best out of what I've heard so far.
 
The RTC's were okay. Not enough bass impact and lacking in details. Highs are twinkly and they have pretty good sound staging.
 
The stock tubes have great bass, warmth and good detail and it only had to sacrifice a little of the sound stage.
 
I've been using one set each week, to burn them in a little and get a taste of what they can offer. I think I'll do the Voshkods next and I still have the Sylvanias and Telefunkens after that.

I am surprised that you say RTC lacks bass impact. I think Mullard tubes are just a little bit bassy and RTC has just enough impact. I agree with the sound staging though

 

[R Scott Ireland]

  I am surprised that you say RTC lacks bass impact. I think Mullard tubes are just a little bit bassy and RTC has just enough impact. I agree with the sound staging though

 
I was just comparing the RTC's to the Telefunkens.  I like them both, but the Telefunken's, to my ears, had a bit more bass impact. I too found the RTC's a little light on bass, but otherwise I thought they were quite good.

 

[BattousaiX26]

   
I was just comparing the RTC's to the Telefunkens.  I like them both, but the Telefunken's, to my ears, had a bit more bass impact. I too found the RTC's a little light on bass, but otherwise I thought they were quite good.

I see. I still haven't tried Telefunkens, I would like to but quite rare nowadays and a little expensive too. Can I ask where did you got yours?

 

[TontonJoK]

For bass impacts the russians tubes are for me the best
The highs are also improved compared to mullards

 

[R Scott Ireland]

  I see. I still haven't tried Telefunkens, I would like to but quite rare nowadays and a little expensive too. Can I ask where did you got yours?

 
I bought mine on eBay from tubemuseum, although they don't have a listing for these tubes any longer.

 

[R Scott Ireland]

   
I bought mine on eBay from tubemuseum, although they don't have a listing for these tubes any longer.

 
Oops, no eBay listing, but here are the same tubes I have available from the tubemuseum main website:
 
http://www.tubemuseum.org/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TFK-6AK5%2F5654