AKG k 701 vs Audio-technica ath-M50

[Region2]

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Well that depends on what you mean with "complete beginner"... I'm not exactly a beginner since i have been into this stuff for a long time - though you could say that i don't have very much experience in headphones...

True. That's why I admitted it was an assumption.  But we all have to begin somewhere

 

[Lan647]

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True. That's why I admitted it was an assumption.  But we all have to begin somewhere

True, true mate

 

[TheMiddleSky]

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Or if you just want to have good sound, don't care about the cost, don't want to deal with setting up a rig, and want to go the IEM route... I hear good things about those JH13s.

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[Lan647]

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I hear good things about those JH13s.

Those do not exist were i come from

 

 

[Sil3nce]

they don't exist? xD you mean they're not manufactured there or sold.

 

[Region2]

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Those do not exist were i come from

Just order it from their site.
 
http://www.jhaudio.com/promusic/
 
The more difficult part might be finding yourself a decent audiologist to make impressions of your ear.
 
Limited list of audiologists:
 
http://www.jhaudio.com/audiologists.html
 
It'd probably be easier if you went yourself, but you can also get a kit to make the impression yourself.  So it should be an option available to you  Or you can lurk around the FS section and buy someone's JH13's and get them reshelled.

 

[Lan647]

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they don't exist? xD you mean they're not manufactured there or sold.

Yes. 

 

[Lan647]

Not another pair of in-ears, i've had in-ear and on the ear. I didn't enjoy wearing either of them...

 

[Sil3nce]

i like how this thread turned into a discussion about jh

 

[Lan647]

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i like how this thread turned into a discussion about jh

Well, it was never supposed to, but I appreciate that people are giving advices. 

 

[p a t r i c k]

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"The K701 and K702 are around the same price (in the $250 range) most of the time. Dunno why the price has fluctuated so much lately."
 
It's due to the availability of the 7 band and 8 band akg k701 serials.
 
This is another post comparing apples to oranges. There's almost nothing sonically similar with the two cans. The k701 is coldly to transient analytical while the other is a closed bass-ample lively phone.

Hi
 
The K701/2s are not "coldly to transient analytical"

 
They are for the most part neutral and transparent. They are in no way "neutralising".
 
If you play music with warm sounding instruments then the K701/2s will reproduce the warmth of those instruments faithfully.
 
The K701/2s do not ape the trend of much audio stuff these days to "warm everything up". Instead the K701/2s do what, I think, all good hi fi should do which is to let you hear the music and not try to "warm it up" or fatten the bass or any of the other stuff that seems to impress people who, it seems, don't actually want to hear what's on their CDs/Audio Files/LPs.
 
A good orchestra is capable of playing with very sophisticated combinations of colour/tone and the brilliant composer past and present can exploit this to amazing effect. For the listener to really appreciate the composition the replay equipment must be capable of replaying warm and cold sounds and a great many temperatures in between. The AKG K701/2s can do this with faithfulness which is exceptional for their price.

 

[p a t r i c k]

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Yes. In my country the 701 sales for 250 and the 702 for 370, hehe. 
 
Open vs closes yes. I like open better, but closed cans also prevents leakage... a tough choice...

 
Hi Lan647
 
Why don't you buy the AKG K702s from the UK where they are only £20 or something more than the K701s ?
 

 

[drez]

To be honest it also depends on your music collection.  Theres no point buying an analytical headphone if it will reveal how crap your music collection sounds.
 
Unless you are able to find  a place to have an extended audition of some of the more high end headphones, with an appropriate amp/source setup (unless you take your own), I would probably lean toward some of the "safer," less divisive headphones.
 
As previously mentioned some of these are much cheaper than the ultra high end headphones, and if closed design will have viable future use once you grow out of them/ catch upgrade-itis.
 
Buying an ultra - divisive high end headphone without a proper audition, or proper familiarity with what various terms used by audiophiles actually mean (What are transients etc - are they vagrants?) in terms of how you appreciate your music will likely result in a quick introduction to mr depreciation - you will likely only be able to sell for about half the retail price.  Caution is well advised.
 
To clarify, the K701 and HD800 are two such divisive headphones, which you will either love or hate depending how they match your music/amplifier/taste.  Definitely don't buy without a decent amp budget and an extended audition.
 
Grados are mostly shunned by musical purists because they do not provide a transparent reproduction, but most non-purists are quite fond of them.  Plus they are cheap.  But they are also open...  As are ath-ad700/ad900, good all round low cost choices but also open.  nee Beyer dt770.
 
K272 and Shure 840, along with fa-003 are all closed, therefore good choices on public transport, and relatively good all-rounders.  If you are doing any travelling apparently the shure 840 can be found for $99 in airports.  Iem's of similar sound quality tend to be much more expensive,often less neutral, and much less durable.

 

[Sil3nce]

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Hi
 
The K701/2s are not "coldly to transient analytical"

 
They are for the most part neutral and transparent. They are in no way "neutralising".
 
If you play music with warm sounding instruments then the K701/2s will reproduce the warmth of those instruments faithfully.
 
The K701/2s do not ape the trend of much audio stuff these days to "warm everything up". Instead the K701/2s do what, I think, all good hi fi should do which is to let you hear the music and not try to "warm it up" or fatten the bass or any of the other stuff that seems to impress people who, it seems, don't actually want to hear what's on their CDs/Audio Files/LPs.
 
A good orchestra is capable of playing with very sophisticated combinations of colour/tone and the brilliant composer past and present can exploit this to amazing effect. For the listener to really appreciate the composition the replay equipment must be capable of replaying warm and cold sounds and a great many temperatures in between. The AKG K701/2s can do this with faithfulness which is exceptional for their price.

Well i was talking about the k701 and seeing as you have the k702 this doesnt really apply. Yes, the k701 is transient analytical. You're contradicting yourself my friend. What you basicly described is what i meant. I didn't say the k701s were exciting and vivacious...

 

[Abdul Mukmin]

Sorry to bump an old thread. But for for me who like to listen to a lot of Daft Punk and somewhere in that genre. Which one is better, ATH M50X or AKG K702?