[Bhelpoori]

LC3 replaces SBC in the new version of Bluetooth audio which you can get more information at: https://www.bluetooth.com/learn-about-bluetooth/recent-enhancements/le-audio/

It isn’t focussed on voice at all, rather it is a modern audio codec replacing the codecs based on 90s technology that are used today.

 

[plakat]

LC3 replaces SBC in the new version of Bluetooth audio which you can get more information at: https://www.bluetooth.com/learn-about-bluetooth/recent-enhancements/le-audio/

It isn’t focussed on voice at all, rather it is a modern audio codec replacing the codecs based on 90s technology that are used today.

All the better then, especially if its part of the Bluetooth standard and might therefore see wide support.

 

[MICHAELSD]

All the better then, especially if its part of the Bluetooth standard and might therefore see wide support.

Let’s not get too excited about LC3. It tops out at 345kbps. It is however good news that a higher-bitrate codec will be supported by default on all new Bluetooth headphones.

 

[Not so fat head]

I bought for $10 Boom Equalizer and my Max's are superb now. You can give them many different personalities, just dial in what you want..
Plus many presets that are fun to try.
I have an Apple 6S and 10.

 

[Gamerlingual]

Meaning current headphones won’t be able to use this? It’s a separate chip?

 

[justanut]

Meaning current headphones won’t be able to use this? It’s a separate chip?

There are 2 H1 Chips in there... maybe if they could double that bandwidth...

What is confirmed is that you'll need a new phone that outputs that new bandwidth~

 

[plakat]

Let’s not get too excited about LC3. It tops out at 345kbps. It is however good news that a higher-bitrate codec will be supported by default on all new Bluetooth headphones.

I‘m very happy with AAC, so this is not about me… but having a better codec that is part of the standard is a good thing. And I’d say 345kbps is sufficient for good audio quality given that AAC offers 256kbps. I don’t think this can be adequately described by these numbers though: as the problem with AAC on many Android phones shows, it’s also about execution.

 

[Bhelpoori]

Let’s not get too excited about LC3. It tops out at 345kbps. It is however good news that a higher-bitrate codec will be supported by default on all new Bluetooth headphones.

We should not directly connect bitrate with quality when measuring across different codecs unless we also measure efficiency and understand the type of codec algorithms being used.

LC3 is a modern, efficient codec, not one from 25-30 years ago, that has been tested extensively to prove it can provide the same quality in much less bandwidth. One test comparing LDAC to LC3 showed that 990kbps for LDAC was equivalent to 256kbps for LC3… The best news is that for Bluetooth vendors it is mandatory and no extra cost for Bluetooth SIG Members.

 

[MICHAELSD]

We should not directly connect bitrate with quality when measuring across different codecs unless we also measure efficiency and understand the type of codec algorithms being used.

LC3 is a modern, efficient codec, not one from 25-30 years ago, that has been tested extensively to prove it can provide the same quality in much less bandwidth. One test comparing LDAC to LC3 showed that 990kbps for LDAC was equivalent to 256kbps for LC3… The best news is that for Bluetooth vendors it is mandatory and no extra cost for Bluetooth SIG Members.

This is indeed great news, especially since headphones like AirPods Max can automatically benefit from it.

Bluetooth quality is already getting eerily good. While I have extremely limited experience with AirPods Max, all of my other Apple/Beats headphones usually surprise me with their sound quality. I’ve sung the praises of the iOS Bluetooth AAC implementation.

Pairing bright ultra low-distortion drivers with a truly lossless codec will create wireless headphones that can one day rival high-end audiophile headphones.

I’m consistently floored by the 4-speaker audio system in my car paired with Apple Lossless in CarPlay. Speaking of, I hadn’t realized that dual mid-range speakers can create a lush soundstage with oddly incredible separation. It’s like a really amazing pair of headphones, with separate drivers for bass.

 

[chesebert]

My 600w 16 speaker car audio sounds like garbage with apple carplay. Actually I have never heard of any car audio that simply sounds normal across the board.

 

[MICHAELSD]

My 600w 16 speaker car audio sounds like garbage with apple carplay. Actually I have never heard of any car audio that simply sounds normal across the board.

Another reason I’m so surprised.

The frequency response is incredibly natural and detailed on my car’s CarPlay. I compared it to my best headphones and they almost rival each other in detail retrieval with Apple Lossless. This four-speaker system may be even better than the premium 12-speaker audio systems I’ve had, although I digress.

 

[chesebert]

Another reason I’m so surprised.

The frequency response is incredibly natural and detailed on my car’s CarPlay. I compared it to my best headphones and they almost rival each other in detail retrieval with Apple Lossless. This four-speaker system may be even better than the premium 12-speaker audio systems I’ve had, although I digress.

LOL..what kind of car and speaker option?

 

[FooFighter]

Hi guys

a bit off topic but nevertheless the audience here is most suited to answer.
Since the last IOS update my original Apple camera connection adapter with additional lightning charging port prevents detection of my DACs (in my case Holo Audio Spring 3 and T&A HA200). Charging is working though using the same adapter.
Tested on IPAD Pro 2017 (last model with lightning port) and latest iPhone 13 Pro).
Standard camera connection kits without charging port are working flawlessly
Anyone else encountering this?

 

[plakat]

Hi guys

a bit off topic but nevertheless the audience here is most suited to answer.
Since the last IOS update my original Apple camera connection adapter with additional lightning charging port prevents detection of my DACs (in my case Holo Audio Spring 3 and T&A HA200). Charging is working though using the same adapter.
Tested on IPAD Pro 2017 (last model with lightning port) and latest iPhone 13 Pro).
Standard camera connection kits without charging port are working flawlessly
Anyone else encountering this?

No, seems to work from my iPhone 13 Pro Max to my Hugo via that USB3 CCK with charging port.

 

[FooFighter]

No, seems to work from my iPhone 13 Pro Max to my Hugo via that USB3 CCK with charging port.

guess my adapter is defect then, will ask for a replacement, thx!

Edit:
Seems one of my 2 adapters is defect and the remaining one is working with Holo Audio DAC but not T&A DAC.
So seems to be a DAC manufacturer specific compatibility issue