AD 500 vs AD 700 vs Senn HD 555

[Mr Joboto]

DT770 Premium or Pro? And AD500 isn't really worth it if you can step up to the 700s.

 

[soccerhotty14]

Im not sure of the differences between premium or pro. Can you suggest which one be better for me? And if I get the AD 700, I think the PURPLE/GOLD combination is terrible. REALLY TERRIBLE. So do you know who sells the mod parts and how to swap them?

 

[Mr Joboto]

The DT770 Premium line is more balanced, the 600 ohm version is supposed to be the only one worth getting, but needs a beefy desktop amp. The DT770 Pro line has overwhelming bass and recessed midrange, and the 80 ohm version is the most popular, however still likes amping. I'm assuming you don't have an amp, so neither of them would be recommendable IMO.
 
As for the AD700, people have modded the grills out, but I don't know where they source them 

 

[soccerhotty14]

Oh thanks. Then ill consider the AD 700 and senn HD 555 only.

 

[Mr Joboto]

Toss a coin

 

[Tigerhawk]

Bigrock, our entire argument started with this:  I stated my opinions and concerns of the HD555s and AD700s and you came back and shot them down, making solid claims to counter everything I said.  You even said that most head-fiers would find my comments untrue.  That is quite a bit of a statement there, especially considering you have no idea if your ideals represent the "rest of head-fi".  You own the AD700s, and they are your main headphones, so of course I expect you to support them, and if you feel great about them, than fine.  I think it's hard for you to hear someone else tell a completely different story of the HD555 vs AD700 compared to your own experience, especially since you owned both and I can understand, because I was completely blown away by your descriptions of the two headphones.  That is the world of headphones.  Everyone has different ears, listens to different media, and likes different sounds.  I just found such statements you made as "the AD700 has all the strengths of the HD555", and "HD555 has Sennheiser veil" to be completely untrue.
 
For example: I would sit there and listen to a song for a while on the AD700s, at that point I swapped over to the HD555s, and I would be lying if I told someone the AD700s were more upfront and musical than the HD555s.  Tested this on all kinds of genres.  We were using the same exact system and setup for both phones, and two different people had the exact conclusions.  Also take note that I have heard other headphones including higher end ones, and I currently do not own or use HD555s or AD700s so I really feel I don't have a big bias towards either.  I was actually ready to try another brand after I was done with the HD555s.  If the AD700 sound just happens to float your boat, than that is just something no-one but yourself can alter.  I would gladly recommend the AD700s over the HD555s if they sounded better, but overall that did not happen and I felt very strong about my opinions.  I make my opinions of headphones based on overall performance, especially on music, and I feel the HD555 is a better headphone in that respect. 
 
I think the thing that sat you off was Blitzkrieg's slightly harsh post way back on page one.  I didn't feel my initial comments towards you warranted such a response, but oh well. 
The whole reason I came to the conclusion of gamers and AD700s, is because as much as someone wants to deny it, they are brought up the majority of time regarding gaming.  Now add that to my personal experience of finding the AD700 boring, weak, and distant compared to all other headphones I've heard, and therefore you have the conclusion I came up with.  Could it be wrong? Yes there is always that possibility, but I feel there is some truth to it and will not change my opinion, kind of how you will never change your opinion of how great the AD700 is.  I'm done arguing with you, but I agree with you that this is simply an opinion-based argument that has probably gone back and forth forever; therefore it's pointless to continue.  I have no hard feelings towards you and apologize if I offended you, or your AD700s in any way. 
 
Geoff,

 

[Ze_Blitzkrieg]

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The ad700 has all the strengths of the hd555 but also has a MUCH wider soundstage and without the "sennheiser veil." 

 
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Once again a fair trade in which both have equal pluses and minuses, and in the end it comes down to what he or she prefers.

 
Slightly contradictory?
 

 

[Bigrock2150]

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Slightly contradictory?
 

Not really considering that the drop in the lower end can't even be heard by the average person. This is what I get for trying to make a peace offering. Do I believe that the ad700 has more minuses than the ad700? No, but I want to end this silly argument because I feel like we're 

 

[Ze_Blitzkrieg]

 
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To point out a contradiction in your statements is beating a dead horse?  Sigh. . .you can not even admit your fault with the evidence right in front of you.  My entire point of bringing forth this massive contradiction you have performed on yourself is that you tried to do something similar to Tigerhawk just because he changed from "most" to "some" in one of his statements.
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How about we start with you TigerHawk. The reason I quoted your original post is because you stated that Most people recommend the ad700 over the hd555 for gaming and not music. Your next argument stated that only SOME people feel that the hd555 is superior to the ad700 in music, and it is a matter of preference. It seems you are having a hard time making things up. You should just try sticking with facts and not the Land of Oz.

 
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Sure, he changed his wording, and that was because he felt he was too "aggressive" in his first post, and felt to ease off some in his judgement.  You on the other hand have somehow completely jumped from the AD700 having ALL of the pluses of the HD555. . .to later stating that both have their own respective pluses and minuses.
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[Bigrock2150]

I do admit I was wrong. I was wrong to exaggerate in my first post to make a point. Do the ad700s have literally every single strength of the hd555s? No, that would be next to impossible. My point was that the hd555 has no noticeable advantages over the ad700, but the Ad700 has better soundstage. I could have just come out and said that but honestly, how convincing would that be? Also, just because I said both have their pluses and minuses doesn't mean ad700 doesn't still have everything the hd555 has. Even though that is next to impossible, I never contradicted my previous claim. Something can have all the qualities of something else and still have pluses and minuses of their own. 
 
So put that in your nose and snort it. 

 
If thats all? I'd like to end this argument. Agree to disagree? 

 

[soccerhotty14]

Hey thanks for the comments coming. And how would you all rate the AD 700 and Senn HD 555 with the Shure 840?

 

[tyty5150]

LOL guys, calm down.
 
Agree to disagree on this thread and help the OP.  Then go debate on the thread HD555 vs AD700.  It'll be more appreciated there I am sure.
 
And I agree with Mr Joboto, just pick one randomly.  Flip a coin or roll a die.  See what you like.  If no good, try the others.
 
Good luck!

 

[Mr Joboto]

Haha, roll a die. 
 
1 is the AD700
2 is the HD555
3 is the T1
4 is the LCD-2
5 is the O2
6 is you buy them all for me

 

[tyty5150]

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Haha, roll a die. 
 
1 is the AD700
2 is the HD555
3 is the T1
4 is the LCD-2
5 is the O2
6 is you buy them all for me

Haha, this is a good laugh.  I like how #s 3, 4, and 5 are way expensive.  And #6 haha...

 

[Bigrock2150]

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 "Flip a coin or roll a die. "
 
 

buhaha, flipping a coin might yield better results. 

 
In all seriousness I know what you mean... Well the Op knows what my vote is lol.