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Disclaimer: I apologize to the moderators for this next post!
You two are impossible to argue with because all you do is spout out Logical Fallacies (go ahead and whip out the ole' dictionary) and completely disregard what the
MAJORITY (
that ones for you Ze_Blitzkdglksfg1****kjvn, notice that I added MAJORITY in bold and in caps. Majority meaning not just some random guy who posted his dislike of the ad700) opinion is. Do you guys even read what I write or are you guys just thinking up another argument? Christ have mercy on you both.
Now thats said I'm going to sort through the things in both of your last posts, and try to find things that are actually related to the point.... still looking......still looking...... this is kinda difficult.... how am I going to relay everything wrong here without writing a novel that they will only skim through and not actually read?
Jeez where to start?
How about we start with you TigerHawk. The reason I quoted your original post is because you stated that
Most people recommend the ad700 over the hd555 for gaming and not music. Your next argument stated that only
SOME people feel that the hd555 is superior to the ad700 in music, and it is a matter of preference. It seems you are having a hard time making things up. You should just try sticking with facts and not the Land of Oz.
Next... to you Blitz_ uhhh? Lets just call you Blitz because I'm tired of copying and pasting your name
. What in the world are you trying to say? Do you actually have a point or are you just agreeing with everything TigerHawk is saying. How about we do this. State your case in one sentence and let the Op (
or whoever runs across this atrocious thread) decide.
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To both of you) I'm going to lay out a scenario and I hope you guys can keep up as it may confuse you two... Ok, so 1 in 10 africans in africa have aids (
might not be correct but it doesn't matter just keep reading) , we achieved this information by randomly checking say 1000 africans for aids. The tests showed that out of those 1000, 100 of them had aids.
You may be asking what is the point and how does this apply to the argument? And i'd say," Case and point." See what I just did there? No?
Sorry to everyone who just wanted to know which one is a better buy. Especially to the Op!
My entire point, which must be over you head, is that one can not make false claims on performace such as "slow" or "fast" unless you can actually prove it. This means you have to have facts. . .stats. . .sorry this is how the real world works. Stick to "wooly" or "light" as these are not implying something physical about the headphone's performance itself. If you can not understand that there is a difference between the two then you must have issues. My life is numbers, stats, etc. . .it's what a Mechanical Engineer works with, and when you are describing something you can not make claims that can not be backed by test results. Your little scenario there for example. . .without that statistical information, you can only make a valid statement of "some have aids", but with the stats you can then say XX out of XXX have aids. Since that was a scenario made by you, maybe you can finally understand this entire point. I find it ironic that you tell Tigerhawk to "stict to the facts" but you somehow can't grasp my entire point of separation of fact and opinion.
As for me "agreeing with everything Tigerhawk is saying", if someone is right, they are right. I feel like everything I have posted minus the "x2" and "YMMV" is very relevant to the original post. If you are trying to make decisions on headphones, what I have pasted from the other thread is very important. I suppose that in your mind to agree with someone is wrong? Sorry if my comment mirror/parallel with someone else's. . .I must be in the wrong somehow according to you. You know, a majority is a majority because they agree with each other.
I suppose that ultimately we should not say what we think about the headphones along with posts with other information to back up our stated opinions? I always find the most information to back up someone's claims to be the most relevant and meaningful. Simply coming into a thread and saying "I'd go with the HD555's" means nothing to me. Why do you choose them? What makes you feel the way you do? What grounds are you starting on with doing your comparisons? etc. . .it's called useful information. When you watch the news, are you content to hear, "there was a body found downtown this afternoon," or are you wanting to know where the body was found, the cause of death, etc? At the same time these need to be valid statement's, which was my point that I cleared up at the start of this post.
Lastly, with your statement about the
MAJORITY (since you felt the need to put it in caps and bold). The majority is not right for everyone, and if you only go by the majority you don't get the whole picture. Let's take a look at history. . .think of something you feel was bad in the past, as in some mass event. Well guess what, this was performed by the majority. . .otherwise it would not have happened. My point here is the masses/majority are not always right. This being said, you can only go off of people's opinions unless you can try them for yourself (the latter which is the best thing to do). Now, if only the
MAJORITY voices their opinions with no arguments or counter impressions you end up with a useless thread of information that paints a very inadequate, lackluster picture to the situation.
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Now. . .back to the original point of this thread. Sorry someone had to derail this thread to take a personal shot at myself and/or Tigerhawk.
All of this and all that I have posted, has backed up my original opinion displayed that the HD555 is a better buy for the money. You might pay ~$15 more for it, but you are getting something that will run the whole gambit. Sure, the AD700's are not bad, and I never said they were. . .other than for music, and that is my opinion. They are not very musical at all, but should be "fine" for gaming. Are they going to help you gain kills or keep you from dying as much in games? No. . .but they may make you feel better about all of this if you believe some of the posts made here on head-fi that I have read (not from the ones in this thread). With that being said, if you are ONLY going to use one of these for gaming, save yourself the extra ~$15 and by the AD700's.
Overall, I would say the AD700's are a decent headphone and will certainly be an improvement over anything in a lower price range in my opinion, but they do not win out in their own respective price range at the same time. I would say the HD555's are more "natural" as compared to the AD700's being more "artificial". . .mainly due to the large sound stage everyone mentions. This does not work for me in music, movies, tv, etc. . .I would rather everything sound like it would if I were there in person in real life, and I feel the HD555's do a much better job on this. It is kind of like knifes. . .you can either buy a specialty knife to accomplish one task, or you can buy a swiss army knife which tackles a wider array of the tasks at hand.
