[Neogeo333]

   
My .02 cents in case you find it helpful:  If you have a discerning ear for detail, the duelunds let a bit more fine detail come through and improve transparency a bit.  They also are a bit more "honest" tone-wise in my opinion, layered but a bit less "romantic" shall we say than most paper in oil caps (which pretty much all sound nice in their own way).
 
Whether it's worth the cost (they're not cheap) is a personal choice.

They also need time to open up.  My 300B from Glenn changed signature at about 3 months.  More natural sounding now.  It could be my ears getting used to the sound but I definitely hear a change.

 

[Xcalibur255]

  They also need time to open up.  My 300B from Glenn changed signature at about 3 months.  More natural sounding now.  It could be my ears getting used to the sound but I definitely hear a change.

 
Sorry, I was editing (adding stuff) to my post while you quoted it.  My bad.
 
I agree with this too.  My 45 amp did not settle down into a final sound signature until it has somewhere north of 300 hours on it.  Maybe even more than that.  The duelunds are known for sounding too "tight" when they are new.

 

[jelt2359]

Just got 2x 6528 in to use with my GOTL and my Code-X.
 
Sounds nice, that lowered output impedance definitely helps!

 

[ru4music]

   
Sorry, I was editing (adding stuff) to my post while you quoted it.  My bad.
 
I agree with this too.  My 45 amp did not settle down into a final sound signature until it has somewhere north of 300 hours on it.  Maybe even more than that.  The duelunds are known for sounding too "tight" when they are new.

 
Xcalibur255, just curious as to what headphones you run with you 45 amp?

 

[jelt2359]

"The best cap is no cap"
 
Glenn gave me instructions and I rewired the single-stage setting to Triode mode rather than Pentode. I listen to it at the 2 'o clock setting now with my Code-X, which means it has more gain than my Dragon Inspire (that one, I frequently needed to go to 3 or 4)- more than enough for me

 

[2359glenn]

  "The best cap is no cap"
 
Glenn gave me instructions and I rewired the single-stage setting to Triode mode rather than Pentode. I listen to it at the 2 'o clock setting now with my Code-X, which means it has more gain than my Dragon Inspire (that one, I frequently needed to go to 3 or 4)- more than enough for me

Do you like the sound better with one stage better then two stage?
Just wondering if it is worth the one stage two stage switch in the next one I build.

 

[jelt2359]

 
Do you like the sound better with one stage better then two stage?
Just wondering if it is worth the one stage two stage switch in the next one I build.

The one stage setting is more analog, musical, smoother, vivid. It's clearly better. The two-stage sound is grainier, and may seem 'more high definition'. My personal preferences actually tend to lean towards uber clarity, but in this case I have to admit that the one stager is simply a superior sound- preferences or not.
 
This means that this is now a two-tube amp for me going forward (one per channel). No reason to use the cap-coupled version anymore. Cutting down on the tube costs further- that's always a good thing!

 

[jelt2359]

The musicality and analog presentation of the single stage reminds me a bit of what I love in my apex teton, though that's an otl and this is trafo-coupled so apples and oranges (for one, less "tubey sounding" on the gel3n). Looking forward to compare the gel3n with my ec studio once that comes in, but I don't expect one or the other to be a winner since the studio is more about uber clarity and the gel3n is just such a enjoyable sound.

I seriously can't believe that these go for the price they go for.

 

[2359glenn]

I ordered transformers to build another one for me. I regretted selling that one after I did.
I actually prefer the sound of the EL3N amp over the 300B just a sweet sound can be compared to a #45
tube.  But for $20 US and not needing a driver it probably sounds better then a #45 and less money.
Ordered a set of Lundahl transformers on Friday. It will be a month to get these transformers from Sweden
special air gap for these tubes.
Going to replace my 2A3 headphone amp with this EL3N amp.

 

[lukeap69]

I'm glad to read this further development of the EL3N amp which I am very interested to add to my current setup. Also interested how this will stack up against the uber expensive EC Studio.

 

[Khragon]

Me too. I will probably get one myself. Love my 300B, and like to add this to my collection.

 

[2359glenn]

  I'm glad to read this further development of the EL3N amp which I am very interested to add to my current setup. Also interested how this will stack up against the uber expensive EC Studio.

You have to wait and ask jelt2359 when he gets it if it sounds as good he thinks it will.

 

[lukeap69]

You have to wait and ask jelt2359 when he gets it if it sounds as good he thinks it will.

Yes, jelt2359 is the man!

Is the 2359 in your username a coincidence?

 

[raybone0566]

Glenn,
Looks as if these amps will go as soon as you turn them out.

 

[2359glenn]

 

You have to wait and ask jelt2359 when he gets it if it sounds as good he thinks it will.

Yes, jelt2359 is the man!

Is the 2359 in your username a coincidence?

Coincidence