2359glenn | studio
Aug 10, 2019 at 9:23 PM Post #28,456 of 39,986
Funny you just posted this. I'm listening to some TS 7802's right now along with Lorenz embossed c3g's and a Mullard GZ32. Pairs great with the Verite as @Phantaminum suggested. Super transparent, fast and detailed sounding. I just had some 5998's in before these and you loose some air and punch, but I think it's a better match.

Nice!! I didn't know anyone else in the thread had a pair, glad someone can confirm that I'm not crazy. Definitely one of my favorite outputs, I'd imagine they would be great with the Verite.

It might pain @Monsterzero to read this...
 
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Aug 10, 2019 at 9:39 PM Post #28,458 of 39,986
Nice!! I didn't know anyone else in the thread had a pair, glad someone can confirm that I'm not crazy. Definitely one of my favorite outputs, I'd imagine they would be great with the Verite.

It might pain @Monsterzero to read this...

Don't worry about him. He just sold off a kidney to help pay off that new DAC... :laughing:
 
Aug 10, 2019 at 9:58 PM Post #28,459 of 39,986
Don't worry about him. He just sold off a kidney to help pay off that new DAC... :laughing:

Might be able to find a kidney donor before a pair of these tubes, I haven't seen a single one surface in well over a year...
 
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Aug 10, 2019 at 10:28 PM Post #28,460 of 39,986
Don't worry about him. He just sold off a kidney to help pay off that new DAC... :laughing:
Dude, where did you find a pair of 7802s?
I've reached out to every tube dealer I know and most aren't even familiar with it.
 
Aug 10, 2019 at 10:28 PM Post #28,461 of 39,986
Might be able to find a kidney donor before a pair of these tubes, I haven't seen a single one surface in well over a year...

Don't listen to me. I'm dumb. I thought you were talking about 7236's. :flushed:

I thought 7802's aren't recommended to use in the GOTL?
 
Aug 10, 2019 at 10:31 PM Post #28,462 of 39,986
Don't listen to me. I'm dumb. I thought you were talking about 7236's. :flushed:

I thought 7802's aren't recommended to use in the GOTL?

That changed on the last page, Glenn said they would be over current and too hot, but I did some testing and put that fear to rest, they have received his blessing :)
 
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Aug 10, 2019 at 11:25 PM Post #28,463 of 39,986
That changed on the last page, Glenn said they would be over current and too hot, but I did some testing and put that fear to rest, they have received his blessing :)
Hi LG,
I have an inexpensive IR thermometer and I noticed that the temperature readings change with how far the thermometer is located in relation to the tubes. The closer you go, the higher the readings.
As I recall the instructions for my IR thermometer said to measure 1 meter or 36" away from the object.
Perhaps your thermometer has a manual to clarify this.
 
Aug 11, 2019 at 5:33 AM Post #28,464 of 39,986
Brought back my adapters.

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Aug 11, 2019 at 5:41 AM Post #28,465 of 39,986
Must have bid on this in my sleep because I won it.

From the seller listing:-

Original vintage tubes. Made in the 1950s by Philips / Mullard for Siemens. With MX1 code. SAME serie. See pictures.

Tubes are electrical equivalent to EL3, Mullard EL33 or Marconi KT61 - but have a different base.

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Aug 11, 2019 at 6:22 AM Post #28,466 of 39,986
Hi LG,
I have an inexpensive IR thermometer and I noticed that the temperature readings change with how far the thermometer is located in relation to the tubes. The closer you go, the higher the readings.
As I recall the instructions for my IR thermometer said to measure 1 meter or 36" away from the object.
Perhaps your thermometer has a manual to clarify this.

Thanks, mordy. The one I bought has a 12:1 distance-to-spot ratio, meaning at 12 inches, it measures a one-inch diameter circle. So the closer I go, the smaller the area it measures. I did this to make sure I was getting the hottest point on each tube, backing up to six inches changed the measurements, but only by a few degrees. Either way, the measurements confirmed what my singed fingers were telling me, that the 6080s were actually getting hotter than the 7802. Very happy I am able to use them.
 
Aug 11, 2019 at 6:50 AM Post #28,467 of 39,986
A combination that makes the OTL so special. EL11s with 6bx7s. Super clarity without the harshness and a mid range sweetness that is addictive. Depth and height of soundstage transform this amp. A close cousin, both EL11 and EL3N sounds superb as strapped triodes in the driver's seat and Deyan's adapters just make it so neat and custom fitting. The c3g sockets are there for a reason. I love the EL11s. Can't believe I've put them aside for more than 2 months.

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Aug 11, 2019 at 6:54 AM Post #28,468 of 39,986
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Aug 11, 2019 at 7:03 AM Post #28,469 of 39,986
Aug 11, 2019 at 7:07 AM Post #28,470 of 39,986
If you want to get similar results, try to use 4 5998 or 421a. Or 6 bx bl tubes.
No worries.
Anyone want to try 4 7236?

I have to agree with you there. 6 bx bl tubes are the next best thing since early man discovered how to start a fire.

Don't have 4 7236 but I've tried 2 5998 and 2 7236 and I prefer 6 bx bl.
 

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