[BunnyNamedCraig]

I was listening to the GOTL and this happened....


Thanks @2359glenn!!! Haha the GOTL has given me such happiness with music.

P.S. I would share what song I was listening to when that happened but it’s too embarrassing... just know that it happened and it was ridiculous ha

 

[2359glenn]

Hahahahahaha...i could not afford your holy grail tubes even if i wanted. Am listening to the Elise with 2x EL3N driving 4x EL3N powers...sounds delish!

Methinks an OTL with the EL3N tubes would be just perfect for my needs....lets see what @2359glenn says

It would need 8 or 12 EL3Ns to work craziness.

 

[2359glenn]

I was listening to the GOTL and this happened....


Thanks @2359glenn!!! Haha the GOTL has given me such happiness with music.

P.S. I would share what song I was listening to when that happened but it’s too embarrassing... just know that it happened and it was ridiculous ha

Are you still using the original tubes?

 

[wazzupi]

Are you still using the original tubes?

Lol ! Great response

 

[BunnyNamedCraig]

Are you still using the original tubes?

At that moment I had the original 1633 driver in, but I had 4 RCA 6bx7’s power tubes, and forget what rectifier was. This happened over the weekend and forgot to post it till now.

I think the 6bx7’s are really good btw. You spoiled me Glenn with the noise floor of the original tubes though. The 6bx7’s were noticeably noisier.

 

[2359glenn]

At that moment I had the original 1633 driver in, but I had 4 RCA 6bx7’s power tubes, and forget what rectifier was. This happened over the weekend and forgot to post it till now.

I think the 6bx7’s are really good btw. You spoiled me Glenn with the noise floor of the original tubes though. The 6bx7’s were noticeably noisier.

The Russian 6H13 are very quiet and don't sound bad for $6 each.
The 6H13 is really all I use hate noise.

You should have splurged and gotten the amp with the 6 output tube sockets.

 

[Xcalibur255]

Stavros, in his humble opinion, told me that the ECC33 is the best sounding driver.

I have always agreed with Stavros on this too. My OTL never sounded better than it did than when I was testing one of his ECC33 for a short time. The Marconi B65 might beat it in "magic" and perhaps in tone depending upon the user's taste, but it definitely can't beat the ECC33 for resolution and articulation. The best US tubes are another rung down on the ladder from these two.

The problem is, unless you get lucky or have connections, a NOS ECC33 might well cost more than the amp itself, and maybe I'm just getting old and don't see the fun of it anymore but I just can't see the sense in that.

 

[Xcalibur255]

4:30am piece and quiet listening to the new EL3N amp . Love the sound of EL3N tubes.

We never did decide if these tubes are actually better than the 45. Probably the truth is that they're just a different flavor of good and both have their merits.

 

[yates7592]

OK now we are talking......I'm listening to my favourite album ever (see avatar - 'This Heat' self titled 1979). I have heard this album so many times, but never sounding as organic, and rich, and spacious, as on my GOTL and HD800. This record is the critically acclaimed missing link between 1970's prog/krautrock and 1980's post-punk. Not easy listening, but if you like your music on the edge and thought provoking, then you should take a listen, and you won't hear it better than on GOTL.

 

[whirlwind]

The EL3N amp has the same magic as a direct heated triode amp.
And the benefit of using the same tube as driver and output is the two tubes will have the same distortion.
The distortion from the driver is 180 deg out of phase from the output they will cancel each other out better.

The harmonics and distortion of the EL3N amp is wonderful....I guess because as you have explained the driver and output tubes are the same.

 

[UntilThen]

I have always agreed with Stavros on this too. My OTL never sounded better than it did than when I was testing one of his ECC33 for a short time. The Marconi B65 might beat it in "magic" and perhaps in tone depending upon the user's taste, but it definitely can't beat the ECC33 for resolution and articulation. The best US tubes are another rung down on the ladder from these two.

The problem is, unless you get lucky or have connections, a NOS ECC33 might well cost more than the amp itself, and maybe I'm just getting old and don't see the fun of it anymore but I just can't see the sense in that.

I got lucky. Won mine in an ebay auction for half the price of what this is asking.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ECC33-MULL...rentrq:f448e4f91620a9cd74ca6509fffaeaae|iid:1

The seller from Australia was selling 2 but I needed only one.

 

[Rossliew]

It would need 8 or 12 EL3Ns to work craziness.

Well then is it possible to build such an amp with an OTL topology?

 

[Xcalibur255]

The harmonics and distortion of the EL3N amp is wonderful....I guess because as you have explained the driver and output tubes are the same.

I just keep getting more and more curious what a 10 Squared amp would sound like now..........

 

[JazzVinyl]

That would be like finding a unicorn.

I have not seen a 12SN7W before.

Not seen a 12SN7W either. Early JAN 12SN7GT are plentiful, and inexpensive.

Listening now to a JAN 12SN7GT Ken-Rad that is exactly like its staggered plate 6 volt VT-231 cousin, paid less than 15.00 shipped for it, looks like it is brand new. Sounds exactly like its expensive cousin.....bass city.

 

[UntilThen]

Quad Svetlana 6h13c have landed and quad ribbed eye juicy steak Fotons are on the way.

The sooner I get the EL3N amp the better. It will stop this tubes buying spree.