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Headphoneus Supremus
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Manufacturers are sort of getting better at incorporating better cooling and getting the most out of the new 15W quad core parts (for the more premium laptops anyway), the new XPS 13 for example runs at a ~26W TDP and can sustain a phenomenal 4 x 2.7GHz. With some undervolting I'd be surprised if it couldn't fit squeeze out another couple hundred megahertz. To put that in perspective, the old Skylake XPS 15 ran at 4 x 2.8GHz! (both comparing base level chips on a repeated Cinebench load from notebookcheck, i5-8250U vs i5-6300hq, though the XPS 15 was infamous for being real poopy back then with throttling)
Intel are really starting to push the cTDP angle with these new chips, they even list the cTDP specs in the ark where the previous generations used to be a bit more hush hush.
I wonder what they're going to do in the ~28W TDP segment now which is dominated by the 13" touchbar Macbooks, Apple tends to want a beefier iGPU so perhaps they're going to use that new Intel+AMD chippie instead. I have no idea if they've given up on the Iris Pro lineup.
I just wish Dell could make that bottom bezel thinner. I actually think devices like the Macbook Pro 2016/2017 look better because the bezels are both thin enough but also well balanced. Anyways, yeah the XPS 13 2018 (9370) is an interesting one when it comes to max TDP, although I haven't been seeing much better for some of the others. The most notorious is HP with their hyperbaric design (basically positive pressure design) which has effectively no headroom.
They seem like the only one though. Part of it looks like a bit of impatience for the 28W parts, so they basically created their own to make up for the low base clocks when running all 4 cores simultaneously. I'm not happy that they've decided going for a thinner device was more important that including a larger battery. I don't think a 52Wh battery is a great idea for a device whose TDP is permanently set to 26W from 15W. From the battery life numbers, it looks like they're leveraging some pretty aggressive power management so it might be okay.
Iris Pro as it is right now is dead. They snatched Raja Koduri from Radeon Technologies Group so we will probably see something within the next 2-4 years on the graphics side. For the time being, Intel will be very happy working with AMD; they get a very cheap GPU, can make a CPU+GPU combo that performs as good as any CPU w/ an NVIDIA card but offer it for a much lower price, and are able to make more money from manufacturers. AMD is happy because they get more GPU share. NVIDIA is basically at a loss here and if Intel and AMD keep it up, they can actually eliminate NVIDIA from the consumer GPU market for the most part.
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