Isobaric Dynamic Driver Subwoofers:
Latest IEM design with 2DD subwoofers featuring 10mm polymer diaphragms in an isobaric configuration for enhanced sub-bass frequencies and tactile quality.
Studio Tuning Precision: Professional studio monitor tuning with a focused sub-bass shelf at 300Hz, delivering impactful and precise bass, clean and neutral midrange, and natural treble peaks at 3kHz. Ideal for musicians, engineers, and audiophiles seeking accuracy.
Balanced Armature Excellence: Incorporating the latest Sonion 26A05 dual BA driver and Knowles 33518 super tweeter in a 3-way crossover with the 2DD sub-woofer system, achieving optimal tonal balance and technical performance for studio and stage applications.
Immersive Sound Experience: Enjoy an immersive audio experience with the Cincotres, combining innovative subwoofer technology, studio-grade tuning, and advanced balanced armature drivers for a rich, detailed, and accurate interpretation of music.
FEATURES:
Studio-grade tuning
Large diaphragm dynamic drivers
3-way crossover
High quality Knowles and Sonion balanced armature drivers
Shimmering treble is quite bad, but overall its a decent IEM with a too high pricetag imo
Pros: Bass is balanced quite well, it very rarely comes off as too much or boosted, its very tastefully done.
Crisp percussion, hihats and guitars makes (some) music like synthwave and 80s rock (which both have that dry kickdrum in common) sound nice, but not without compromise.
Works well with most EDM that is warm and bassy.
Cons: Shimmering treble makes many (dry/bright) tracks sound metallic sparkly which ruins the treble, its a giant compromise; for all tracks that don't have a lot of treble and is mostly warm its a non-issue.
Midbass is slightly too much and sometimes sound a bit like it mutes details and resolution or makes sound seem distant even if it is right in your ears.
Quite a lot of tracks comes off as too bright, even EDM
I will update this review soon after I received more eartips and write a full review, but I made up my mind. I think what this IEM suffers from the most is the shimmering metallic treble which I can't unhear.. It destroys its ability to be used in a lot of my library such as everything just shimmers. Shimmering shimmer peaks that destroys the rest of the sound.
This cause alone is enough for me to warrant another 1 star penalty.. because 4/5 would be "I love it for the price its fair and excellent - would be hard finding something to beat it, but its not perfect".
3 is like.. "I like it, but it has flaws that makes me unable to enjoy 360 degrees of my music library" - and thats even being nice imo. Sadly I'm very treble sensitive when it comes to flaws like this. 2.5/5 would be harsh, but 3 is fair I feel, I initially set it at 3.5 stars but honestly.. I think the shimmering is so bad in many tracks you would even expect it to be good in, its a letdown in all ways. The compromise of getting a crisp treble at the cost of making too many details seem too bright and "dry" is not worth it.. It works with synthwave, 80s rock, but not with sparkly ambient or similar trance/EDM details like leads, choirs.. Its too bright, non-neutral, too dry at peaks.
Changing my Topping E30 DAC from filter 3 (default, neutral) to filter 6 (warmest) helps "slightly" but I'm not fond of equalizing IEMs.
To make examples of what music sounds great on these without sounding too "dry" in the treble:
(Lets start with 80s rock)
Drums are crisp, guitar and keyboard are airy and full bodied
Drums are airy, guitar is clear and sparkly
Bass is well-controlled, drums are airy.
Warm vocal, crisp and airy drums
Crisp guitar, sparkly bells, detailed vocals
(Then synthwave)
This does perfect with the crisp drums.
This works, obviously because its a very warm bass and warm track overall.. This is the kind of music that does well with this IEM.
Also works great, because its warm, its bassy and not that sparkly.
Of course it works, because its WARM.
(Then less fortunate synthwave tracks for this particular IEM)
This track actually reveals some of the extra shimmering I'm talking about, its quite annoying because otherwise this track would have been a warm and bassy synthwave that it should be able to do
It sounds alright, but you get the feeling that the track comes across brighter and drier kicks than neutral cuz of the shimmering, which is a shame..
Its quite clear in this track that it does the treble bad.. Its shimmering AF, it sounds distorted and low resolving.
(Trying on a different source: iPhone 15 Pro Max with USB-C adapter -> jack instead of my desktop amp = same results, its BAD, horrible shim-shim-shimmering)
... and while the AirPods Pro 2nd are far too bassy for this track and less detailed it doesn't shimmer in this track like these do, Cincotres is unique for that metallic shimmer. Actually AirPods Pro 2nd is opposite of Cincotres it presents the track as bassy and Cincotres presents it as too bright shimmer.
Everyone knows this track from the movie Drive.. and its also shimmering like hell and far too dry and bright shimmer in the treble
Verdict: Overall I like it, but I'm very disappointed in the shimmering which severely limits my listening pleasure. I don't really understand why someone can think its OK to release something that distorts the treble this bad. From start to finish its been the shimmering thats been holding me back from loving the crap out of this IEM cuz I really would if NOT that dreaded shimmering treble was so colored. The shimmering makes you wanna back off from so many tracks and thats what makes it tiring to listen to. Its not initially very obvious, but once you listen to more than a few genres you will clearly hear it and you will not like it.. These IEMs simply don't work well with tracks with bright details (which excludes a lot) - the 80s kickdrum as is used in synthwave is kind of sound these IEMs does best with in my opinion, as well as warm and bassy music.
stock eartips are trash, i think the bad seal is due to the harder silicon material. Im using Sony Ex11 clones, TRN T tips and Divinus tips, they give me perfect seal especially the first two due to the softer more conforming silicone.
I have some TRN Clarion on the way, obviously not the same.. but I have loads of eartips on the way.. also DUNU S&S which I am most hopeful for.. Right now I'm listening on Pentaconn Coreir Brass and they really reveal all flaws in that IEM cuz the brass core makes the sound very transparent. There's none of the eartips I've had so far that could smooth out the shimmering tho.. Its simply not possible, its far too dry in the tuning at times showing with about 30-50% of all tracks.
Pros: Energetic and crisp treble yet inoffensive
Good bass performance, good control and texture
Good ergonomics and beautiful faceplate
High price performance ratio
Cons: Bass response is quite dependent on the seal and eartips, make sure to get a good seal and tip roll if necessary
General/Packaging/Comfort/Build
ZiiGat is a relatively new brand which is sold by Linsoul exclusively. The brand has released several IEMs, namely the Cinno and Nuo,and also the Doscinco, which I have also tested and reviewed previously and found to be really good for the asking price. I have the Cincotres with me today which has the same configuration: 2DD+3BA as Doscinco, in which the two DDs are arranged in isobaric configuration.
Build quality is very solid and features beautiful faceplate as well, metal nozzle, it is neither short nor long for my ear anatomy. Packaging is rather minimal i would say, the stock cable, eartips, faux leather storage case and the IEM itself. Doscinco and Cincotres, size for both of the IEMs are similar, the difference lies on the faceplate.
In terms of comfort, the Cincotres does not have any sharp edges and I use them for several hours a day and I did not feel any discomfort throughout my listening session. They are in fact similar to the Doscinco which i had already reviewed
Prior to writing this review, Cincotres has been run in for roughly 20 hours, and in my opinion, the DD does benefit from the burn in.
Equipment and Software used
Aune S9C -> Earmen CH-AMP
Fiio K9 AKM
Aune Yuki
Macbook Air M2
Apple Music/Tidal/foobar2k
Tempotec V3
Foreword
My review is solely based on what I hear via my equipment and I never consider my reviews to be objective in any way rather a subjective approach. Do take into consideration that everyone’s ear anatomy is not the same, so the psychoacoustics perception might be different as well, but i believe it will not stray too far
Sound Impression
Upon first listening impression, Cincotres sounds quite neutral to my ears with a sub bass boost, it is fairly detailed yet it is not offensive, it doesn’t sound dull and quite a refreshing tuning i would say. Slight warmish tonality with fairly natural timbre, still a slight hint of BA timbre is there if you pay real hard attention to it. Note weight is neither too thin nor thick.
Bass
Fairly good speed and doesn’t sound bloated or muddy when listening to busy tracks such as Slipknot’s People’s = crap!, Metallica’s Lux Aeterna, it handled the speed drumming and kick flawlessly, without sounding muddy nor bleeding into the mids
Sub bass has good extension and very rumbly when the track calls for it
The transition from sub to mid bass is very good, the mid bass doesn’t lack punch and the sub and mid bass complement each other very well
The bass has good texture and doesn’t sound “loose”
Mids
The mids are neither too forward nor recessed, just right to my ears
They mids are not too thick nor thin, overall, i would say they’re clean sounding
Vocal positioning is slightly forward but not intimate
Male and female vocal has good texture to it and doesn’t sound thin, female vocal has good bite and energy to it, very enjoyable
The bass doesn’t bleed into this range which is good
Pinna gain is rather safe and never shouty even when the volume is being cranked up
Treble
Treble is very crisp and has good bite to it, yet they’re not offensive, but retains enough energy to not sound dark
Extension is fairly good and i have nothing to complain about
Good amount of air and presence, hence it does give a good stage size perception
Detail retrieval is good as you can pick up some minute details in the background
Soundstage/Imaging
Soundstage is slightly out of your head with good width, and depth, slightly lacking in terms of height perception
Separation is good for the asking price, i would say it is above average for the price point
Imaging is good as the instruments can be pinpointed easily even during busy track
Driveability
Cincotres is not hard to drive but it does scale well with more power, in terms of dynamics and bass control
Most of the entry level/mid range dongles will do just fine but desktop setup will squeeze every bit out of the Cincotres
Comparison (ZiiGat’s Doscinco)
Warmer sounding overall, thicker note weight
Bass quantity is slightly more than Cincotres, hence packing more punch
Soundstage is more or less similar, detail retrieval is slightly lacking compared to Cincotres
Mids has good body and vocals are not too recessed nor forward in the mix, the vocal is not as forward compared to Cincotres
Upper mids are not perceived as shouty as well
Overall, the Doscinco is tuned differently and i would say when you just want to chill and have fun, grab Doscinco, if you decide that today you want to have a critical listening session, Cincotres is the one you’ll be grabbing
Final Thoughts
As ZiiGat is stepping up on their IEM game, their releases has been interesting so far, from Cinno, Nuo, to Doscinco and Cincotres which i have tested today, they’re very interesting in terms of sonic performance as well as the price point, the Cincotres reminds me of the Etymotic’s EVO, in a way, they are quite similar(based on my HRTF and Audible Spectrum) except the bass on the Cincotres has better extension packing a lot more punch and quantity.
I would even go as far as saying the Cincotres is punching above its price point, at 269$, with the sonic performance as well as the build quality that it offers, i will not hesitate in recommending the Cincotres to anyone who likes this sort of sound signature that i have described in this review, both the Doscinco and Cincotres are unique in their own way, they shouldn’t be under the radar and more people should be made aware of this brand’s release.
*A big thanks to Linsoul for sending this over for the purpose of this review. Thanks for the support and opportunity as always
Head over to their store if you are interested in getting a pair:
Excellent review. I have the Cincotres, and listening now find they are so precise in the sound stage. When I crank up the volume the bass is fantastic, while not overwhelming the excellent, non fatiguing treble. I am thinking of getting the Doscinco also, likely will go for the Dusks and Gizaudio Dunu Davincis as endgames. (For this year anyway.) Interesting that having the Ziigaats for about a month that they are so good, so balanced, they almost are too competent.
stock eartips are trash, i think the bad seal is due to the harder silicon material. Im using Sony Ex11 clones, TRN T tips and Divinus tips, they give me perfect seal especially the first two due to the softer more conforming silicone.
I am ready to pull the trigger on either these or the Dochenco but am a bit confused with the different tunning?
Which one has the strongest "Sub-Bass" of the two and which model would respond to EQ best if used in both music production AND casual listening?
Thanks in advance for your help it's much appreciated
I am ready to pull the trigger on either these or the Dochenco but am a bit confused with the different tunning?
Which one has the strongest "Sub-Bass" of the two and which model would respond to EQ best if used in both music production AND casual listening?
Thanks in advance for your help it's much appreciated
From listening to clips on Dan's youtube channel, Hype4 has more "total bass" than Hype2. However, I believe they have the same 30-100 Hz bass energy, butthe Hype4 adds more midbass. Still a tucked bass, but more energy from 100-200 Hz with Hype 4 than Hype2..
This makes the kick impact from bass drums more impactful on the Hype 4. I am assuming that Thieaudio is using the extra set of Sonions in the Hype 4 to work with the dual dynamic drivers to deliver that midbass impact.
From listening to clips on Dan's youtube channel, Hype4 has more "total bass" than Hype2. However, I believe they have the same 30-100 Hz bass energy, butthe Hype4 adds more midbass. Still a tucked bass, but more energy from 100-200 Hz with Hype 4 than Hype2..
This makes the kick impact from bass drums more impactful on the Hype 4. I am assuming that Thieaudio is using the extra set of Sonions in the Hype 4 to work with the dual dynamic drivers to deliver that midbass impact.
Well, it turns out that the Cincotres is a hybrid IEM for Studio Tuning, intended for professional stage musicians, studio engineers and audiophiles who want a studio monitor-like sound signature for accurate music performance; and the Doscinco is for audiophiles and any audience... The confusion is great to acquire one of the two!
Well, it turns out that the Cincotres is a hybrid IEM for Studio Tuning, intended for professional stage musicians, studio engineers and audiophiles who want a studio monitor-like sound signature for accurate music performance; and the Doscinco is for audiophiles and any audience... The confusion is great to acquire one of the two!
no. That is marketing, but is actually, per two different reviewers (I have heard neither, just reporting), the opposite of what is reality. Cincotres is more musical, Doscinco is more flat (studio mixing).
As as aside, never, ever, like ever in a million years, assume marketing language = reality.
no. That is marketing, but is actually, per two different reviewers (I have heard neither, just reporting), the opposite of what is reality. Cincotres is more musical, Doscinco is more flat (studio mixing).
As as aside, never, ever, like ever in a million years, assume marketing language = reality.
Thank you for reaching out to us with your query about the Cincotres and Doscinco IEMs. Both models offer unique features tailored to different preferences and needs.
If you're seeking a studio monitor-like sound signature for accurate music performance, especially for professional stage musicians and studio engineers, the Cincotres would be the ideal choice due to its hybrid design optimized for studio tuning.
On the other hand, if you're an audiophile or part of any audience looking for a versatile and high-quality listening experience, the Doscinco would be more suitable with its broader appeal and excellent sound performance.
Ultimately, the decision depends on your specific requirements and preferences. Feel free to explore the detailed specifications and reviews of both models to determine which one aligns best with your needs.
If you have any further questions or need assistance, please don't hesitate to let us know. We're here to help!
Thank you for reaching out to us with your query about the Cincotres and Doscinco IEMs. Both models offer unique features tailored to different preferences and needs.
If you're seeking a studio monitor-like sound signature for accurate music performance, especially for professional stage musicians and studio engineers, the Cincotres would be the ideal choice due to its hybrid design optimized for studio tuning.
On the other hand, if you're an audiophile or part of any audience looking for a versatile and high-quality listening experience, the Doscinco would be more suitable with its broader appeal and excellent sound performance.
Ultimately, the decision depends on your specific requirements and preferences. Feel free to explore the detailed specifications and reviews of both models to determine which one aligns best with your needs.
If you have any further questions or need assistance, please don't hesitate to let us know. We're here to help!
If you are an audiophile or part of an audience looking for a versatile, high-quality listening experience, the Cincotres. On the other hand, if you are looking for a sound signature similar to a studio monitor, you are a professional stage musician or studio engineer, the Doscinco.
linsoul had a live stream on YouTube with comparison sound demo, actually 3 different language streams with different song selections. of course useless for an actual sound demo but show the difference between the two quite well.
I just got the Cincotres today. Shipping took forever from China. I think Amazon has them in stock stateside now. I am not a reviewer with great technical knowledge, but here is my take: The Cincotres are outstanding, they don't color the music, they make what you are playing shine. The resolution, the sound stage all sound wonderful with no EQ, bass you can feel, but it does not overpower the excellent treble. I have to give it to HBB on youtube, he knows a winner when he hears it! I enjoy these so much I would buy the Doscincos likely blind. I will probably wait and get some end game IEM's over $1k though. I think the only way to get noticeably better than these Cincotres would have to be in the upper region of above $1k. Anything else is a sidegrade. Ziigaat I will be watching. They make excellent IEM's. (these don't need EQ, but I like the ThieAudio Monarch mk II EQ on my Peter's Peace eq app.)
I also have Cincotres or Doscinco in mind, I don't know which one anymore. I'm waiting for there to be stock and not waiting a month or more. You say twice that it doesn't need EQ, which is very subjective. I have the NEO 5 from ISN Audio and I don't use the EQ either.
I have these too; I also bought them on HBB's recommendation, and agree with everything @earlybirdthr33 said. I find these to be excellent for their price and their place in the market. I am particularly impressed by the bass. I don't know if "impact" is the right word to use, but you can feel the bass without it being overpowering, in a way that seems very reminiscent of the Sony XBA-N3's bass, and that I've heard on no other IEM.
The Cincotres is now my new daily driver.
The only minor let down is the chin slider on the included cable. It's very loose/doesn't stay put where positioned, but I worked around that by putting a tiny orthodonture rubber band on the cable right below it for more friction.
I'm no reviewer, but I'm surprised this IEM has no reviews on this site, it deserves some!
I also have Cincotres or Doscinco in mind, I don't know which one anymore. I'm waiting for there to be stock and not waiting a month or more. You say twice that it doesn't need EQ, which is very subjective. I have the NEO 5 from ISN Audio and I don't use the EQ either.
Yes totally subjective. EQ is necessary with the bang for buck excellent Simgot EM6L. I find on my Galaxy Note and gaming PC, Crinacle's EQ for ThieAudio Monarch mkII works for my preferance for these Cincotres. I have only just them though.
I have these too; I also bought them on HBB's recommendation, and agree with everything @earlybirdthr33 said. I find these to be excellent for their price and their place in the market. I am particularly impressed by the bass. I don't know if "impact" is the right word to use, but you can feel the bass without it being overpowering, in a way that seems very reminiscent of the Sony XBA-N3's bass, and that I've heard on no other IEM.
The Cincotres is now my new daily driver.
The only minor let down is the chin slider on the included cable. It's very loose/doesn't stay put where positioned, but I worked around that by putting a tiny orthodonture rubber band on the cable right below it for more friction.
I'm no reviewer, but I'm surprised this IEM has no reviews on this site, it deserves some!
no. That is marketing, but is actually, per two different reviewers (I have heard neither, just reporting), the opposite of what is reality. Cincotres is more musical, Doscinco is more flat (studio mixing).
As as aside, never, ever, like ever in a million years, assume marketing language = reality.
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