i've read that the olives run larger than many foam tips. if i wear a large in silicon on both the ie8's and pfe's should i go medium or large? these are pricey and i would rather not waste money on getting the wrong size. thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Quote: Originally Posted by tstarn06 So do you feel the PFEs are a worthy phone, at least in the ballpark of a top tier IEM? Just curious. I guess the soundstage deal is the major difference. i'll preface what i'm about to say with this grain of salt: this is my first foray into...

it's now 2.99--you have to use the coupon code HSWRAP.

back to the original question-- i noticed ever so slight improvements on the upper end. i liked them out of the box and like them now. ironically i am also comparing them to the PFE's as well. so far i can say they are closer than i would have imagined. the one HUGE advantage in favor...

Quote: Originally Posted by ottoyu34 Try play around with the fitting: normal or upside down> tips > insert depth> insert angle. Otto agreed. i'm surprised how important the angle is on these. not the case as much with the sleeks and phonak's i have.

where in jersey are u? if i keep my phonaks i might be able to help.

i'm far from the most experienced guy on here when it comes to iem's but i do have some good general audio knowledge. i recently decided to get into the high end of iem's. i am currently trying the sa6's, the phonak pfe's and the sennheiser ie8's. by far, the ie8s are the most similar...

Quote: Originally Posted by average_joe On the IE8 burn in, be ready for 20 hours to not be enough. It might be for you, but for me the IE8s didn't really shine until 150-175 hours. And before my experience, I read that their sound keeps changing up to around 250 hours. And I am...

Quote: Originally Posted by ethan961 I think this will be my first impulse purchase due to head-fi. Not much has been said about the fit though, how is it? Can you sleep with them on? in terms of fit with the included tips, on my ears, the pfe is the most comfortable with the...

i've got both as of this morning. i'll post my thoughts here as well. i'll be burning in the ie8's overnight and continue to do so listening and when not in use. i have read that they open up starting at 20 hours majorly and then incrementally from there. i also am trying out the sa6's so...

Quote: Originally Posted by hockeyb213 well the 530's are comfortable but for sound quality especially for you taste I would definitely suggest ie8's over 530's I use comply's with my ie8's btw I think those allow for the best seal. which comply's are you using? and for...

Quote: Originally Posted by Possum Did you learn about the 10% restocking fee over the phone? The website has no mention of it. yep. when i called i asked specifically about this.

got them off their website with the save10 disount. as to the 14day trial, there is a 10% "restocking" fee if you return. interestingly, whether this is true or not, the woman i spoke to said they have had only two returns out of "several hundred" sold.

thanks again for all of the suggestions folks. so here's what i'm trying: phonaks pfe ie8 sleek sa6 i will compare the three and keep the one that suits me best. if there is interest i will post my thoughts in another thread.

very cool thoughts there jp. i have found in many other hobbies (home audio included) that sometimes as i get further into the hobby i lean towards a more minimalist approach. even if there are better "things" out there, sometimes beauty can be found in minimizing things a bit as a side, do...

oh i was also very seriously considering the sleek sa-6's but again cable issues coupled with the new sa-9's coming have me thinking now is not the best time to be looking at those.

thanks for all the replies folks. at this point i've decided to check a few out. i'm defintely going with the ie8 and i was going to try another set and possibly a lower cost one to compare if the ie8 is worth the extra money for me. i was pretty set on the shure 530 but i have just read...

folks-- i'm interested in hearing opinions on some higher end warm, lush IEM's. i'm admittedly quite confused here and perhaps it's because much of this is personal opinion based but interestingly enough, i don't seem to see the same type of discrepancy in speakers so i'm looking almost...

also forgot--how necssary is the replacement cable?? it costs about $50 more than the cans themselves but i'm sure you all feel it is worthwhile correct? what does it bring to the table from a performance standpoint? and lastly, does the cable have any impact on the need for an external amp...

again folks--thanks for the great replies and frank discussion here. so i am liking these 595's, but everyone at least seems to agree about the 580's outperforming the 595's on jazz and that;s about 40% what i listen to. so maybe i will have to give them a rattle. just i know what i'm in...

Quote: Originally Posted by bludo Are you sure that you have the 120 ohm version and not the 50 ohm ones? well right you are bludo--i saw on the senn website that the 595's are 120 ohm, but i just checked the box and they are in fact 50 ohms according to the box. what's the...

thanks for the great reply dave! i have only been using the 595's for less than 10 hours so that could definitely be a factor if you say they broke in a bit warmer than they were out of the box. i do have concerns if the 580's are difficult to drive--if i will always need a headphone amp...

Hello-- First post here and this is an overwhelmingly informative site. My question regards the differences between the Senn 595's and 580's. It seems many here are fans of the 580's but i have not seen as much on the 595's (relatively speaking). Can someone try to relate the sound...