Fair enough. Definitely makes me feel better to see that this was just imprecise language in a forum, rather than yet another manufacturer making a demonstrably false claim. That stuff just really gets under my skin. Cheers.

Don't recall ever making that sort of presumption, but I guess it's ok for you to presume to read words in my messages that I didn't type. "I hear a difference in my system using this cable" is not offensive to me and I've never suggested that it was. "This cable is something that our materials...

100% this. Whatever they are (or claim to be) putting in their cables has absolutely no superconductivity at room temperature. Waste your money on whatever you want to (/whatever makes you feel like your setup has improved), but false advertising is a no-no.

Nice to see someone here is still sane. "The cable uses super conductors"... my lord, the things manufacturers will claim...

Evergreen VC stabilized finally arrived yesterday after their UPS misadventures. I've been working more or less nonstop for the last 30 hours so all I managed to do was run downstairs to retrieve the package. Haven't opened it yet. Too tired to give them a fair first listen anyway. Sigh. But...

Hey, at least they finally showed up. Mine were on a truck Saturday - but the "follow my delivery" showed that truck literally not moving all day from wherever it was apparently parked. Then that night I got an email that the delivery rescheduled for today. But all day today the tracking page...

Evergreen coming my way!

Yeah, guys, no customs until the Stabilized Batch 2 sets are sent out... nudge nudge... :grin:

Thanks for the reminder, gents - just ordered mine as well. Now I guess it'll be a race to delivery between this, from Ukraine, and my VCs, from Stabilized Batch 2....

Sigh. Just making it even more depressing that I had this very set in my cart but couldn't check out in time. :triportsad: Oh well. My (batch 2) set should come before too much longer...

Late to the party but I'd love to participate. New York City, NY, USA. A large collection here to compare them to - a (not so random) sampling: SR-009, SR-007mk1, Jade II (on a KGSSHV Carbon) Utopia, Stellia, HD800, Oppo PM-3, old-school HE-400 (mostly on an RME ADI-2 DAC FS / Monoprice THX...

What do you mean? These... produce sound, or something?

Wanted something blue or purple. Ended up with Evergreen. Not disappointed anyway.

Out of curiosity, what would the third pin actually be utilized for, in your ideal version?

I can second the awesomeness of the Woojer vest (I was one of the early Kickstarter backers), though I use it mostly for playing games in VR. I may just grab the belt for something simpler for music...

Oh, of course - not disputing that, I'm sure they do. Just saying I think Steve was looking to follow Zach's advice. :)

I think the point was that Zach suggested an amp with higher output impedance. Isn't the Lyr 3 only 0.3 Ohm? Not sure that would solve the problem here.

On the positive side, at least the forum has a very convenient function for ignoring users who are not, in your view, contributing anything useful.

I just hope that however it's done folks have some sort of advance notice and reasonable chance to get in on it, rather than just "happen to be the first person to visit the ZMF page after they were silently added at 2:37pm on a random Tuesday."

Got my shipping notice today! Woo!

I'm not on the list either. Still waiting. :frowning2: Guess I'll survive...

Yeah, definitely lucky. Some of us U.S. Kickstarter backers are still waiting :raising_hand:

Sigh... still patiently waiting for mine to show up... :) Unfortunately I was late to the game, backer number in the 2200's. But it sounds like I've definitely got something to look forward to! (At least assuming they can make it into the U.S.... maybe I'll have to wait a bit longer. Sigh. :weary:)

The rendering above does in fact show both RCA and XLR outputs, so I think you're covered there. I'd agree with the preference someone expressed above for USB-B input; seems pretty standard for a desktop product, as opposed to USB-C. I'd also agree with the thought above that it would be nice...

Well, I guess I do need a pair of these after all. Just when I thought I was done buying headphones...