[Matias]

Just found that there is a newer V5i version:
http://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v5i/

It is smaller due to the IC custom opamp and should be easier to install anywhere. No problems with space and extenders etc.

Also I see capacitors and metal shield to have it more noise resistant apparently. And cheaper btw.

Should not sound as good as the V5 but it is a nice plug and play alternative. Interested in comparissons between them.

 

[Blazer39]

i have been checking recently the Burson op amp, and im very interested to try them..the thing is..im a newbie to anything audio DIY related

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i just bought a ready made Cmoy amp with single JRC op amp, can i upgrade it to Burson op amp?!
 
any help would be Much appreciated..

 

[Audio Addict]

Just found that there is a newer V5i version:
http://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v5i/

It is smaller due to the IC custom opamp and should be easier to install anywhere. No problems with space and extenders etc.

Also I see capacitors and metal shield to have it more noise resistant apparently. And cheaper btw.

Should not sound as good as the V5 but it is a nice plug and play alternative. Interested in comparissons between them.

 
You are correct, you would not replace the V5 with the new IC based chip but for those installation the V5 just won't fit, the IC should provide the the Burson Audio family sonic signature.  I am curious just how close it would be.  I have 4 of the V5 installed in my RSA Apache using the flexible connection but it doesn't look that professional as they lay on their sides mostly.  I am tempted to try these and see how close.

 

[genclaymore]

This be good for those who usually use the V5-opa's on sound cards, will now find this easier to use do to less space being taken up. Even inside of portable dac/amp's that have  hardy any space.

 

[Matias]

Changed a pair of BB OPA604 from my integrated amp (speaker system) with a pair of V5s and extensions. Install was somewhat difficult (tight space), and I had to add some more mu-metal shielding sheets around the transformers to reduce noise, but the end result is fantastic. The tonality remained the same but now the sound is more dynamic, soundstage is more focused and 3D. Very happy with the upgrade!

 

[Voxata]

I love my V5's, and don't worry installation is simple just make sure they are correctly orientated.

 

[Matias]

Installation is simple as long as you have ample space around the socket and easy access to it. In the middle of my integrated amp this was not easy at all.

 

[Dorcarn]

With all the good reviews here I just have to ask:
 
Has someone made a blind test with those opamps? Would be interesting to hear from people whether they could separate between the opamps just by listening, not knowing which opamp is built into the system
 
I cant believe it has such a drastic effect on the audio output since there are a lot of voices that say discrete opamps are
-not as good as normal IC opamps, just a lot more expensive
-dont change the sound at all.
-any sound difference is just an illusion because your brain wants you to hear that it is better. All the money and effort has to have a positive effect, right?
-all reviews I have seen just describe the Opamps with very subjective adverbs like more natural, clearer, and so on...
 
Has someone made some real measurements of the effects the Burson V5 have on the equipment?
 
I was playing with the thought of buying some V5s just to give it a try, but having a look at threads like below, I highly doubt there will be any improvement of sound.
 
http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8987/op-amps-horrible-truth/p1
http://nwavguy.blogspot.de/2011/08/op-amps-myths-facts.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTv2jAree8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ

 

[Cruxiaer]

  With all the good reviews here I just have to ask:
 
Has someone made a blind test with those opamps? Would be interesting to hear from people whether they could separate between the opamps just by listening, not knowing which opamp is built into the system
 
I cant believe it has such a drastic effect on the audio output since there are a lot of voices that say discrete opamps are
-not as good as normal IC opamps, just a lot more expensive
-dont change the sound at all.
-any sound difference is just an illusion because your brain wants you to hear that it is better. All the money and effort has to have a positive effect, right?
-all reviews I have seen just describe the Opamps with very subjective adverbs like more natural, clearer, and so on...
 
Has someone made some real measurements of the effects the Burson V5 have on the equipment?
 
I was playing with the thought of buying some V5s just to give it a try, but having a look at threads like below, I highly doubt there will be any improvement of sound.
 
http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8987/op-amps-horrible-truth/p1
http://nwavguy.blogspot.de/2011/08/op-amps-myths-facts.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTv2jAree8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ

This is actually a pretty interesting subject to research into. I'm also wondering how different can opamp make a sound card be. On the verge of ordering 3x Burson V5D but then I read your post. Made me hesitate lol.

 

[newdoughboy]

To be honest, if you buy them and don't hear the difference, you won't notice the difference between $200 and $400 headphones. The improvements are night and day. If you like them. You can sell them to me. With a mark down of course

 

[raoultrifan]

I did A/B tests and even blind test with my Burson V5-dual opamps and I've noticed audible improvement when used in Objective2 - VAS stage, MATRIX M-Stage HPA-3B - VAS stage and also in ASUS Essence One - LPF and VAS stages. Burson V5 are completely solid-state op-amps and its internal design is simple and completely oriented to audio amplification, so when used in VoltageAamplificationStage or LowPassFilter stage these solid-state op-amps can and will increase soundstage, channel separation and musicality. You can find my posts about in O2, Matrix M-Stage HPA 3U/3B threads and will come a couple of more posts in Essence One thread soon.
 
I was not convinced yet by Burson SS V5-dual when used in output buffer in O2 or in Matrix M-Stage, but I've heard some people being pleased about SS V5 when used as buffers in different DACs. Also, in I/V stage it's not recommended to be used and same applies if used in unity gain Voltage Amplification stages (it may oscillate, though I had no oscillations shown on my scope when used in Objective2 with 1X amplification).
 
Why SS V5 might get a better soundstage and a fuller sound than other op-amps? Well, it's internal circuitry it's completely designed for audio amplification, it's fast enough for audio usage and its internal components are carefully chosen (0.5% resistors for example or the perfectly matched transistors tells me this is an audiophile op-amp). I strongly suggest you to give it a try, but I also suggest you to DIY or buy an A/B testing device to test if SS V5 op-amps will suit your needs or not (don't you ever trust your audio memory, just do A/B tests with similar devices!).
 
Regards, 
Raul.

 

[justbenice]

I'v tried a few opamps in my LKS MH-DA003 :
 
+HDAM china made opamps from Ebay  : 34usd/ a pair
+Supreme Sound Opamp V5i : 70USD/a pair
+Muses01 : 92,5USD/a pair 
 


 
 
+ The HDAM china opamps : The mid and bass was ok, but the treble was worst, very high and thin treble. 
+ Burson  V5i :  Very good opamps, it have very detail and clear treble, good and thick mid, deep and very clear bass. It have very good balance in Treble-Mid-Bass. 
+ Muses01 : Like it name, muses, it have sweet mid, sweet bass, but the treble was less clear and detail as V5i.
 
Overall, i like the V5i more because it have clear and detail treble an very balance in Treble - Mid - Bass so the sound stage wider, make me feel  enjoy to listen music.
The muses01 is good if you like some slow, soft music like Jazz. 

 

[raoultrifan]

Hello,

I did myself some tests today and I thought it would be nice to copy-paste it here as well: http://www.head-fi.org/t/542563/asus-essence-one-headphone-amp-dac-cebit-2011/3315#post_12728236. You can also search for my other reviews for the V5-dual op-amps inside Matrix M-Stage HPA-3B and Objective2 amplifier.

Regards,
Raul.

 

[Voxata]

The differences of the v5s compared to my old Opamps were such a drastic improvement there wasn't much A/b needed. Sure, I did compare them but once getting used to the V5's there's no going back.

 

[dhruvmeena96]

With all the good reviews here I just have to ask:

Has someone made a blind test with those opamps? Would be interesting to hear from people whether they could separate between the opamps just by listening, not knowing which opamp is built into the system

I cant believe it has such a drastic effect on the audio output since there are a lot of voices that say discrete opamps are
-not as good as normal IC opamps, just a lot more expensive
-dont change the sound at all.
-any sound difference is just an illusion because your brain wants you to hear that it is better. All the money and effort has to have a positive effect, right?
-all reviews I have seen just describe the Opamps with very subjective adverbs like more natural, clearer, and so on...

Has someone made some real measurements of the effects the Burson V5 have on the equipment?

I was playing with the thought of buying some V5s just to give it a try, but having a look at threads like below, I highly doubt there will be any improvement of sound.

http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8987/op-amps-horrible-truth/p1
http://nwavguy.blogspot.de/2011/08/op-amps-myths-facts.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTv2jAree8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ

i have did it

But with agdr upgraded O2 with booster board further moded

First of all agdr O2 is upgraded to be even more silent and stable

Booster board make DC offset 60x lower and output current to be 3x

Using it in VAS(voltage amplification stage) njm2068. As this is VAS opamp solid state design.

For my o2, i cant gp with nwavguy njm2068 because my amp demands higher specs like lme49990 dual

Secondly, if your amp support higher spec opamp, go with it

Nwavguy mentioned that if circuits arent capable with opamp, they will oscillate badly.

But then using low genric opamp is useless or i will say waste


This opamp gets me cleaner on treble side and upper mid side by scientific observation