I missed this post somehow, it was impressive because I found them to be so bass light that I was surprised to hear some sub-bass and pretty deep extension too. I also haven't heard that many high end headphones, I'll admit. The D2000 had far more impressive bass overall out of the ones I have...

You could check out Razordog Deals, I went through ebay, but he also has a site, and got a nice price and he ships out same day. I'd try emailing him, or offering a price on ebay. Ebay would probably be quicker. Quote:  

Ah, okay thanks. I definitely have a new one as mine has the silver screening at the top and bottom like the photo on the right. I was worried there for a minute, I thought the whole grill was supposed to be silver and that I had gotten an old one, haha.   Quote:  

I thought I had a new silver screen version but now I'm not so sure. What does that even mean? The actual grill over the driver? Or the actual white/silver driver behind the grill? http://www.headfonia.com/sennheiser-hd650-600-and-580-updated-drivers/ This is all I could find on it and that...

Yeah, basically. The O2 is great and will have no problem powering nearly anything you throw at it and it is nice and affordable. I was just saying if he wanted to avoid software EQ and just use hardware colorization (I didn't research the m-stage but I'm assuming it is just naturally dark and...

Does the headband get easier to adjust over time? Right now it is incredibly stiff to adjust, and it usually pulls out more than one notch or sometimes half a notch, making it hard to get both sides even fitting.

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Quote: Mine are brand new silver ones and they sound great, I was just saying that the very laid back presentation of the HD650s is almost a bit jarring when switching from a less laid back headphone, which leads to it seeming veiled. But, yeah, I have no trouble with slow bass or veils...

I see, and I can see what you mean, A/Bing between the Q701s and HD650s I feel like I can hear a very slight difference in speed but it is so slight that I'm not sure if it is just my mind playing tricks or not. A/Bing that much, I can also see where the myth of the veil came from. The laid back...

Well, I used the JDSLabs Pre-assembled O2 and it worked great, the O2 is a very transparent colorless amp, and seems to work well with any headphone I throw at it, so if you want just the headphone (and perhaps the DACs) coloration, the O2 would be good to look into. If you want to color the...

What do you mean slow? They seem to keep up the beat and speed even on faster songs. Unless slow means something else that I don't know about.

Man, that extra low-end really gives these headphones the perfect balance of reference and fun, I'm finding I can really just sit back and enjoy the music with these, I can't find a flaw. Everything seems perfectly presented and present. It's great!

Man, these are great! The bass is at the perfect level, it is audible and enjoyable but doesn't intrude, and those mids are buttery smooth, and the treble is completely non-fatiguing. I can see why these are so highly regarded still. The detail dropoff between these and the Q701s isn't even as...

Mine are getting here a day early, today. I hope they are as good as everyone says they are!

I don't have these yet, and I've never had an E10, but looking at specs and what not I don't see why they wouldn't drive these to at least an acceptable level. Hopefully someone else can chime in with some actual experience though. Quote:  

The bass eventually came out in these after some burn-in, but ultimately I'm returning them because they give me some really bad listener's fatigue and they make my ears hurt a bit. I have had Sennheisers in the past and I liked that laid back presentation and the treble roll off is easier on my...

I went with razordog deals and got a good price, thanks for the suggestion guys!

edit: I'll just buy through ebay

Thanks for all the answers guys! I'll see about razordog deals or shoreline, I'm not sure that I have any local hi-fi shops near me.

Is there anywhere I could call in and get these for 400 or under or am I stuck looking at used pairs? And, how does the soundstage compare to AKG Q701s? I find the Q701s a little too distant sometimes, a little too large, especially for certain rock recordings or poorly done recordings that have...

From what I understand, it is pretty normal for their open box products to be mint or near mint. I am pretty sure they will also replace the item if it is defective, even if it is open box. It also comes with the manufacturer's warranty. Someone else could confirm this maybe.   Anyways, the...

D2000. You can find them open box at Electronics Expo for 200. The one I got was literally brand new, as if someone had just cut the tape on the box and sold it as open box.   Quote:  

  I agree, these do have some pretty impressive sub-bass, especially considering how light the rest of the bass frequency region is. It brought some serious rumbles out when I was watching films on these last night, and a few games show off the sub-bass too. Now only if the rest of the bass...

Quote: What is the closest I can get to that same sound (neutral and evenly presented mids and highs but with just a bit more bass than the Q701s, nice accurate soundstage) if I have 300? I could stretch it a bit if needed. I was looking at a pair of DT-880 Premium 600ohms, they seem...

I had them for a short while but sent them back as I found the bass and sibilant highs overshadowed the mids too much. I didn't try any classical but I can't imagine the bass being too overwhelming, the mids may be an issue. Edit: Sorry, didn't see you only wanted closed backs. So I'll offer my...