I forgot lol
Im gonna say iemagnet was hyping them POStins
I think bhazard with the havi but rverybody got the wrong version lol
^ Nah those Piss_tons went SUPER_NOVA RETARD HYPE and many hyped them up and you know who you are. I honestly am dumbfounded how it got that way tbh. Am still is today. I know people enjoy them a lot due to their fun warm bassy sound with decent micro details, staging etc.
So didn't really want to kill their buzz but if you take them into consideration technically speaking and performance wise they are average at best and is CLASSIC FOTM material. It punches slightly above their retail price but nothing more. And for some folks to have put them on par with DN1Ks, etc etc is pretty absurd. The Nuforce NE700Xs has almost the exact same siggy and presentation but bests these Piston easily. Even the LG QB2 bests them and those should be much more worthy of the hype than the Pistons despite i don't see eye to eye with inks on many things i have to give those LGs are thumbs up.
Yeah, and the pistons were such glorious IEMS, right?
That annoying iemacknet has created a huge commotion out of the pistons.
They look mighty fine for $27
but I'd rather save up for an iem that will get heavily discounted to that price instead.
I agree with this and WOULD have agreed with bhazard until...
to be honest, both sides are being unfair (though have good points)
The hyped cheap iems and headphones are just that, cheap, good sounding. It is unfair to those headphones and earphones that are not well known, like these logies for instance.
HOWEVER
These mikros are...
let me say it
DISCONTINUED
that's why they're at this price, and it isn't even hype because of that, since the intentions of the martin logans company was to make a high end headphone. They decided to sell all their stock off, and this is definitely a gem!
Marties were originally $300, so obviously these shouldn't be compared.
Knock it off all of you, all headphones that are recommended by headfiers with similar tastes for specific SQ (whether it be smooth, warm, or analytically detailed) like ours are enough for most of us.
I love the martin logans
They deserve to get hyped, though there does have to be a limit.
Do I love them more than my collection??
Not even, I do love that it bests my collection, but it won't sound warm, nor will it sound big bassed, nor will it have the widest soundstage (though it will lose the 3dness if that happened), it won't have everything.
But it will always get the top love from me.
^ Honestly i don't blame that IEM dood for the Piss_tons hype tbh, it's too easy to scapegoat a person that is banned and can't defend themselves. It was a COLLECTIVE hype on those pistons and you know who you are.
There were only a couple of peps that kept the hype in check despite their praise for them as well, and gave invaluable impressions regarding how they TRULY sounded. So props to those few folks and you know who you are.
Lets just say if you believe that these lil' portable Logan cans CAN bests flagship full size cans like the HE-500s etc etc then you are a fool and a tool to believe it. Some might prefer them to those full size cans, but there are limitations to what a closed portable can do.
BUT i prefer these Logans over the ATH WS99s, ATH ES700s as well as the Philips X1s i had once owned. Do they utterly destroy those other three cans, NOPE. Not by a long shot, but overall these Logans has a much higher end sound to me overall, despite the WS99 bests them in bass and sub bass, the ES700s has a tiny tiny edge on the lushness of the mids and the X1s has a much bigger soundstage due to it being semi-open.
That is where i place these Logans, nothing less nothing more.
But I do hype the M90. Its a budget beast. It's just reaching hype levels that will disappoint a lot of people.
Most people looking at a great $50 portable headphone do not have a good DAC/amp, with high quality, excellent mastered FLAC/MP3, and have the ability of all that to be portable. When power starved, not positioned well, and playing a poorly mastered/lower quality file, it takes a big hit.
We might think it's normal, but most people will think "What?" at spending $300 on a "modest" amp/DAC to extract the best sound from a $50 headphone.
^ Like i said before, if you believe everyones hype then you're damn fool. Everyone has their own preferences so i can understand that some pick these Logans over some flagship models but it is just one persons opinion. Why would you take anyones opinion at face value anyways??? You have to take into account their track record and how grounded as well as how their biases matches up to your own.
ehhh these Logans were originally $300 MSRP and for me they are worth every penny. The packaging might be lackluster but these perform at the $300 dollar range for me since i like them over the ATH WS99, ES700 as well as the Philips X1s.
So i really don't get your point on how these are "$50" cans and are not worthy of spending more on amp/dac on such a "modest" setup. In fact due to these Logans being discontinued as is selling at such low prices, but performs at the $300 level for me, it SAVES you tons so you can put your money on better amp/dac to improve not just these Logans but future purchases as well.
And isn't that what budget-fi is all about??? You get better/ same performance for cheap so you can hedge you monies elsewhere on hopefully even better things.
Some would argue that technically the FXZ200 was better than the FXZ100, but I actually enjoyed the 100 better (still have but sold the 200). I keep preaching this: you have to choose the sound signature best for you and get out of the top of the line mindset.
^ You know what i am just gonna be blunt about the FXZ200s, i was REALLY and UTTERLY disappointed at them from my very 1st listen. I was soooo excited to finally hear what the hype was about and it being my 1st set of over $100 iems i had lots of expectations, also due to their hype as well.
But i was like ehhh these things sounds so damn meh, and this was what many folks hyped about??? So when you consider how hyped they were by so many, the FXZ200s is GARBAGE in how they perform and sound for me. For even my noob arse with such little experience i still don't see nor understand how those FXZ200 could be so hyped up so much, so i see your point there ericp.
The only person that put those JVC into proper perspective as ekey boi on his review of the FXZ100s while everyone back then was running around hyping them up. Guess only time can prove who is on the money and who is full of it.
/rant