[cute]

  Ishcabible has both and will be able to confirm impressions. So far impressions are that the blackwood is a hint darker, with less bass qty but better sub bass.

I'm sure not finding the Blackwood as a hint darker.....I am hearing harshness in the lower treble, treble sounds brighter overall than what I remember from the X Vibro!

 

[grizzlybeast]

Could be right. Our memories can't compare to having both together.

 

[Ishcabible]

I'm sure not finding the Blackwood as a hint darker.....I am hearing harshness in the lower treble, treble sounds brighter overall than what I remember from the X Vibro!

Hmm really? I actually hadn't used the Vibros in about a month because I thought they were kind of harsh to me, whereas I don't hear that with the Blackwood. Though Zach did do a number of revisions for the Vibros. I distinctly remember there was a very dark tuning at one point.

 

[cute]

 

I'm sure not finding the Blackwood as a hint darker.....I am hearing harshness in the lower treble, treble sounds brighter overall than what I remember from the X Vibro!

Hmm really? I actually hadn't used the Vibros in about a month because I thought they were kind of harsh to me, whereas I don't hear that with the Blackwood. Though Zach did do a number of revisions for the Vibros. I distinctly remember there was a very dark tuning at one point.

Zach told me the Blackwood upgrade needed 100hrs burn in, do they change after that?  I am finding that vocals are too much in my face, quite different than what I remember the X Vibro!  He suggested that if they didn't change that he would do a retune.  He claims the wood needs to break in with the parts that were changed.  I've been pounding these with loud music like he suggested.  Also, microphonics on the left side of the Blackwoods is pretty bad, Zach said it's the difference in the wood.  What are your thoughts on the changes from X Vibro to Blackwood?

 

[grizzlybeast]

 

 

I'm sure not finding the Blackwood as a hint darker.....I am hearing harshness in the lower treble, treble sounds brighter overall than what I remember from the X Vibro!

Hmm really? I actually hadn't used the Vibros in about a month because I thought they were kind of harsh to me, whereas I don't hear that with the Blackwood. Though Zach did do a number of revisions for the Vibros. I distinctly remember there was a very dark tuning at one point.

Zach told me the Blackwood upgrade needed 100hrs burn in, do they change after that?  I am finding that vocals are too much in my face, quite different than what I remember the X Vibro!  He suggested that if they didn't change that he would do a retune.  He claims the wood needs to break in with the parts that were changed.  I've been pounding these with loud music like he suggested.  Also, microphonics on the left side of the Blackwoods is pretty bad, Zach said it's the difference in the wood.  What are your thoughts on the changes from X Vibro to Blackwood?

Now this I can definitely say is different from what I am hearing. I am 100% on that. The vocals are less forward on the blackwood as a result of the midrange being more flat and less lush. 
 
Also the microphonics should not be coming from the headphones like that. I hear no ringing or rustling, the cord is braided. With the new tuning and rewire done inside of the set, there still shouldn't be any. Check and see what frequency range you are hearing it at, midrange, bass, treble. I would just send it back.
 
As far as sound goes, my blackwood is neither really bright, or very forward in the vocals but it does have a very strong center image.

 

[hans030390]

Could be fit/seal issues and variance between the ZxV and Blackwood. If you haven't, I'd spend time adjusting the headband until you know they fit perfectly. They're the type of headphone that can be difficult in this regard. But, if you'd done so already, then I suppose check the damping in front of the driver? (Assuming there is some on the Blackwood.)

 

[cute]

 

 

 

I'm sure not finding the Blackwood as a hint darker.....I am hearing harshness in the lower treble, treble sounds brighter overall than what I remember from the X Vibro!

Hmm really? I actually hadn't used the Vibros in about a month because I thought they were kind of harsh to me, whereas I don't hear that with the Blackwood. Though Zach did do a number of revisions for the Vibros. I distinctly remember there was a very dark tuning at one point.

Zach told me the Blackwood upgrade needed 100hrs burn in, do they change after that?  I am finding that vocals are too much in my face, quite different than what I remember the X Vibro!  He suggested that if they didn't change that he would do a retune.  He claims the wood needs to break in with the parts that were changed.  I've been pounding these with loud music like he suggested.  Also, microphonics on the left side of the Blackwoods is pretty bad, Zach said it's the difference in the wood.  What are your thoughts on the changes from X Vibro to Blackwood?

Now this I can definitely say is different from what I am hearing. I am 100% on that. The vocals are less forward on the blackwood as a result of the midrange being more flat and less lush. 
 
Also the microphonics should not be coming from the headphones like that. I hear no ringing or rustling, the cord is braided. With the new tuning and rewire done inside of the set, there still shouldn't be any. Check and see what frequency range you are hearing it at, midrange, bass, treble. I would just send it back.
 
As far as sound goes, my blackwood is neither really bright, or very forward in the vocals but it does have a very strong center image.

I've tried adding the felt pads from my Alpha Dogs to the Blackwood.....still no joy!  They're headed back to Zach tomorrow so he can look at the microphonics, and find where that end game sound is!  My Blackwood doesn't sound like what is being described here.   It's definitely not the seal....my AD sounds dark and smooth in comparison!

 

[zach915m]

 They're headed back to Zach tomorrow

 
Thanks Cute, I'll check them out and get you all set-up. 

 

[grizzlybeast]

I wonder how these will turn out in the end!!! 

those are the vibros getting ready to be beside the new flagship.  I honestly haven't been listening to a lot of music lately.  Been occupied otherwise. So I will have fresh ears on everything. 
 
I pretty much want to start listening to them like it was my first time.

 

[Haidar]

Anyone had a chance to hear the Fostex TH500RP and can compare them to the Vibro?

 

[cute]

 
I wonder how these will turn out in the end!!! 

those are the vibros getting ready to be beside the new flagship.  I honestly haven't been listening to a lot of music lately.  Been occupied otherwise. So I will have fresh ears on everything. 
 
I pretty much want to start listening to them like it was my first time.

 
Why would you want the Vibro, when you have the flagship?

 

[cute]

  Anyone had a chance to hear the Fostex TH500RP and can compare them to the Vibro?

 
I had the Fostex TH500RP........for a day, and then returned them, they lack low end!

 

[grizzlybeast]

 

 
I wonder how these will turn out in the end!!! 

those are the vibros getting ready to be beside the new flagship.  I honestly haven't been listening to a lot of music lately.  Been occupied otherwise. So I will have fresh ears on everything. 
 
I pretty much want to start listening to them like it was my first time.

 
Why would you want the Vibro, when you have the flagship?

because I like both. Like I mentioned in my posts that they operate separate lanes. Even though the blackwood has better technicalities, it doesn't eliminate it. 

 

[Ishcabible]

Why would you want the Vibro, when you have the flagship?

It's more like an HD650/HD600 thing. I could totally understand having both.

 

[Tasoeur]

How do you deal with the wait ù_ù 
 
Feels like an eternity before having my ZxV