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ZMF Verite

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by heliosphann, Oct 3, 2018.
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  1. Monsterzero
    No,why,is that an invitation to move in?!
    Yall have no idea how much I hate East Coast winters! :sob:
     
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  2. wazzupi
    Make your way down good sir !! Everyone does it from New York anyways ! Hehe
     
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  3. Monsterzero
    Yeah,its snowing here at the moment. *sigh*
     
  4. wazzupi
    Ya, I enjoyed my first sight of snow at canjam NYC 2018 :)
     
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  5. 2359glenn
    The weather isn't that bad were you live I grew up there.
    About the sane as here in NC.
    But my daughter is the smart one and moved to Florida My son not so he still lives in Albany NY.
     
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  6. Monsterzero
    Yeah well I guess its all relative... Born and raised in SoCal and living the majority of my adult life in the Carribean and Thailand,one becomes accustomed to anything below 70 degrees to be chilly.
     
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  7. ProfFalkin
    3 feet of snow and counting. Love Colorado.
     
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  8. wazzupi
    Im 3 feet above sea level.
     
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  9. Zachik
    Snow is that white fluffy stuff. right? Just making sure - none here, and I am not even sure it has a word for it in my native language... :wink:
     
  10. Monsterzero
    @gLer

    Ive been doing extensive a/b tonight with the Verite thru my GOTL vs. Sansui 881. Here are my thoughts:

    There are def differences,but theyre subtle,and an argument can be made in favor of either,mostly subjective.

    With the GOTL you get added three dimensionality that is really great. Its there on the 881,but to a lesser degree. The width of the staging is very close.
    With the 881 its actually slightly warmer than my GOTL(tube choices play a big role in that). There are some songs where I actually prefer the 881s presentation. For example:



    When the bass and drums kick in at around 1:11 on the GOTL it gets a little messy.Im assuming its a combo of the wood and the tubes getting a bit too romantic and muddying up the rest of the mix. Thru the 881,95% of that congestion goes away and the rest of the mix comes through loud and clear.

    As far as the rest of the sound goes,the bass is still thunderous and deep. Guitars,synths,pianos still pop and sound great. You might be able to make a case either way,but its very close even doing direct a/b ing.

    So in summary you need not worry about not being able to enjoy the Verite to a very high level w/o tubes. To be clear,you need not buy an 881 specifically. Many vintage receivers do excellent jobs driving high ohm headphones(and planars). It just so happens the 881 is my personal favorite of the several that I own.

    Hope this eases your mind.
     
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  11. gLer
    It does indeed, and thanks for taking the time to do that comparison (with my earlier comments in mind). Would you say the Atticus is more tube-picky than the Verite? The Atticus was the basis for my initial comments; I've heard Auteur off a good solid state and it sounds fantastic. Off course as I replied to Zach earlier, I'm splitting hairs because even the Atticus sounds better than most headphones off solid state, but it's kinda like taking a big V8 for a pleasure cruise around the neighbourhood when you know full well it can rip up the road :p
     
  12. Monsterzero
    I think the Atticus + tubes is a subjective topic. Lets face it,the Atticus makes zero attempt to sound neutral,and when you add tubes to that warm romantic sound it can have more romance than I prefer to have with anything other than my wife.
    With some genres tubes are the clear winner,and then with other genres(punk,thrash,melodeath,goa trance)the cup reflection+tube gooeyness can detract(for me) from my enjoyment of a given track. Thats just my .02 and im sure others can make valid arguments to counter mine.

    For me the biggest gain from tubes is reverb and 3D staging. If you can live without those two things in the same quantity,then dont sweat your aversion to tubes.
     
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  13. scotto
    “Planar like sound” - love the sound of this Zach! In my brief intense search going from HD 650’s to hearing Utopia- thinking that was “it” then at canjam being a bit put off by a grainyness of Utopia there, liking mr speakers top planar offerings, then listening to the Auteurs striking a sweet spot of higher end detail with such a refined almost planar sound. The be speed with a planar like sound with beauty and craftsmanship and artist voicing - look forward to hearing these!! Bowing in your general direction :)
     
  14. gLer
    That is just classic! :ksc75smile:
     
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  15. Viper2005
    We're six hours away from preorder start! Who's ordering a pair on day-one? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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