[rb2013]

Feed it with an LPS for the 5V USB if needed. Don't forget to set the jumpers accordingly.
With a bit of DIY, you can also prevent the card itself using 3.3V from the PCI connector and feed it also with an LPS or battery.

What I like about the PPA cards is this adapter - that moves all power away from the PC to a LPS

 

 
 
Here is the JCAT card - of course with external power adapter built in:

 
According to Marcin - the JCAT card alone is better then the Intona, Regen or Recovery.  He is interested in the F-1 and will try one.
 
BTW he runs the awesome APL DSD-M DAC.

 

[yuhengtiger]

 
Yes - the ICRON and the Startech are the same thing (ICRON makes it for Startech).  Be sure it is the GB LAN version that does iso audio.
 
Yes a major improvement to the F-1.
 
NOT THIS ONE!  - does not support iso audio
http://www.l-com.com/usb-icron-usb-20-ranger-2304-lan-4-port-usb-20-ethernet-lan-usb-extender
 
NOT THIS ONE! - does not do 1GB LAN
https://www.icronshop.com/home/usb-20-ranger-2304
 
 
 
THIS ONE!

USB 2.0 RG2304GE-LAN

RG2304GE-LAN is a 4-port isochronous USB 2.0 extender across Gigabit Ethernet Local Area Network (LAN)

https://www.icronshop.com/icron-brand/usb-20-rg2304ge-lan
 

Thanks for this information. Will try it!

 

[rb2013]

  Still running the X-1 here, (for anyone interested in/considering the more "budget based" route here)
 
Only change I've made recently was adding my E180CC tube based buffer from the DAC output to amp/preamp.
(which I previously used on my main audio system from the DAC as well)
 
The digital performance I'm getting now on my pc is by far better than any I've had on my main audio system non pc related.
(and I'm still just running PC USB power to the X-1, as I have not got my updates for that part yet, but they will be coming)
 
So to sum it up this X-1 setup beats any cd-player, cd-player/dac I've ran in my systems here,
(that would be "medium range" HIFI cost/performance wise cd-player, cd-player/dac combos)
 
Thanks again Rob for the tip/card,
(It was just what I was looking to get)

Glad that is working out for you.  The X-1 is the forgotten step child to the F-1.  But pretty good in it's own right.  Has the ultra low phase noise NDK SD clocks.
 
Speaking of - when is DIYinHK coming out with the Pro4a?  Should be soon.

 

[rb2013]

  Thanks for this information. Will try it!

Nice!

 

[jabbr]

 
What I like about the PPA cards is this adapter - that moves all power away from the PC to a LPS

 

 
 
Here is the JCAT card - of course with external power adapter built in:

 
According to Marcin - the JCAT card alone is better then the Intona, Regen or Recovery.  He is interested in the F-1 and will try one.
 
BTW he runs the awesome APL DSD-M DAC.

 
I'm not familiar with the PPA card but what I understand about the JCAT is that the external power adapter only feeds the 5V line of the USB port.
The board itself still operates on the 3.3V it draws from the PCIe connector and not from the attached PS.

 

[rb2013]

   
I'm not familiar with the PPA card but what I understand about the JCAT is that the external power adapter only feeds the 5V line of the USB port.
The board itself still operates on the 3.3V it draws from the PCIe connector and not from the attached PS.

I see  - I believe the PPA draws all it's power from the ext port - if that adapter is added.
 
Funny that JCAT still uses the 'dirty' power of the PC for the card's clocks.
 
Oh I hope the REDNET3 sounds good - so tired of USB.
 
According to Marcin - he did not think the RD3 was significant.

 

[seeteeyou]

  Now the issue with the XMOS XK-AUDIO-216-MC-AB - is 96k limit - multi channel as it's main purpose.  No SPDIF out.  High cost $300.

 
Not true. IMHO it's a deal for 300 bucks
 
https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-(-AB)-Product-Brief(1.2).pdf
 

Audio

• S/PDIF optical/coaxial input and output
• Supported sample rates

1. PCM ≤192kHz at 16, 24 or 32bits
2. Native DSD64 and DSD128

 

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https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-2V0-Hardware-Manual(1.4).pdf
 

Exploiting the flexible programmability of the xCORE-200 architecture, the Multichannel Audio Platform supports either USB or network audio source, streaming 8 input and 8 output audio channels simultaneously - at up to 192kHz. Ideal for mixing two sources and providing main and headphone monitor output feeds.

 

Digital audio output

Optical and coaxial digital audio transmitters are used to provide digital audio output in formats such as IEC60958 consumer mode (S/PDIF) and ADAT.

The data streams from the xCORE-200 are re-clocked using the external master clock to synchronise the data into the audio clock domain. This is achieved using simple external D-type flip-flops.

The optical output uses a TOSLINK optical connector with an integrated LED and differential driving circuit. The coaxial output uses an RCA connector and is isolated via a transformer.

 

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Singxer should be more than familiar with the xCORE-200 architecture at this point, it's just a matter of convincing them to make more money without having to invest an awful lot of resources to get the job done IMHO.
 
They know what they're doing based on the value they've been providing to we audiophiles so far. That $300 development board does have Gigabit Ethernet and coaxial output to boot, plus 12V DC input, and finally up to 192kHz and DSD128 for those of us who really need those sampling rates.
 

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Even if Singxer weren't interested, we still have another backup plan in Marlborough, MA
 
http://www.sonilan.com/el-panamericano/
 
Of course it might be even better if there were synergistic cooperation between both of them IMHO, who knows?

 

[rb2013]

   
Not true. IMHO it's a deal for 300 bucks
 
https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-(-AB)-Product-Brief(1.2).pdf
 
 

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https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-2V0-Hardware-Manual(1.4).pdf
 
 
 

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Singxer should be more than familiar with the xCORE-200 architecture at this point, it's just a matter of convincing them to make more money without having to invest an awful lot of resources to get the job done IMHO.
 
They know what they're doing based on the value they've been providing to we audiophiles so far. That $300 development board does have Gigabit Ethernet and coaxial output to boot, plus 12V DC input, and finally up to 192kHz and DSD128 for those of us who really need those sampling rates.
 

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Even if Singxer weren't interested, we still have another backup plan in Marlborough, MA
 
http://www.sonilan.com/el-panamericano/
 
Of course it might be even better if there were synergistic cooperation between both of them IMHO, who knows?

I stand corrected!  Very exciting!   How come no ones has implemented this yet in a Ethernet AVB audio device.
 
Does it come with the ASIO drivers for ethernet?

 

[rb2013]

https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-%28-AB%29-Product-Brief%281.2%29.pdf
 
Holy Cow this thing does it all - it's a USB DDC, a ethernet AVB DDC, a DAC , a ADC, a mixer,etc...
 
To bad ithwey
 

TARGET APPLICATIONS
Pro Audio
•
Speakers
•
Amplifiers
•
Mixing Consoles
•
Audio Interfaces
Consumer/Prosumer
•
DJ Controllers
•
Headphone Amplifiers
•
Audio Interfaces (DACs)
•
Musical instruments
(Keyboards, Guitars)

  10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet connection.
AVB standard compliant endpoint. AVnu plugfest proven interoperability with other vendors.

Source code reference software Integrated development tools suit. Rapid development and code reuse Royalty-free deployment. Fast time to market.

It includes the following features:
∑
A: xCORE-200 (XE216-512-TQ128) Multicore Microcontroller device
∑
B: 8 output analog audio channels (3.5mm stereo jack)
∑
C: 8 input analog audio channels (3.5mm stereo jack)
∑
D: 192kHz 24b audio DAC
∑
E: 192kHz 24b audio ADC
∑
F: Optical connections for digital interface (e.g. S/PDIF and ADAT)
∑
G: Coaxial connections for digital interfaces (e.g. S/PDIF)
∑
H: MIDI in and out connections
∑
I: An ultra low-jitter programmable audio phase lock loop
∑
J: USB 2.0 type A and micro-B jacks
∑
K: 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet connection
∑
L: 16 general purpose LEDs
∑
M: 3 general purpose buttons
∑
N: 1 general purpose 2-way switch
∑
O: Selectable TDM input audio sources
∑
P: Selectable TDM output audio sources
∑
Q: Integrated power supply unit

In order to accommodate a multitude of clocking options, the low-jitter master
clock is generated locally using a frequency multiplier PLL chip. The chip used is a
Phaselink PL611-01, which is pre-programmed to provide a 24MHz clock from its
CLK0 output, and either 24.576 MHz (FSEL high) or 22.5792MHz (FSEL low) from
its CLK1 output.
The 24MHz fixed output is provided to the xCORE-200 device, as the main pro-
cessor clock. It also provides the reference clock to a CirrusLogic CS2100, which
provides a very low jitter audio clock from a synchronisation signal provided from
the xCORE-200.
Either the locally generated clock (from the PL611) or the recovered low jitter clock
(from the CS2100) may be selected to clock the audio stages; the xCORE-200, the
ADC/DAC and Digital output stages 

 

 

[wushuliu]

  https://www.xmos.com/download/private/xCORE-200-Multichannel-Audio-Platform-%28-AB%29-Product-Brief%281.2%29.pdf
 
Holy Cow this thing does it all - it's a USB DDC, a ethernet AVB DDC, a DAC , a ADC, a mixer,etc...
 
To bad ithwey
 

 
So do we need to contact Singxer directly and be like MAKE THIS NOW?

 

[jabbr]

So do we need to contact Singxer directly and be like MAKE THIS NOW?

So do we need to contact Singxer directly and be like MAKE THIS NOW?

I would suggest you read this: http://controlgeek.net/blog/2015/7/2/avb-and-audinates-dante-an-update-after-infocomm-2015

A few telling quotes:

Work on AVB started back in 2005, and I first saw a demo of it at Infocomm 2009 (my initial writeup with an introduction to the technology here).  It seemed like a great idea, and I was a big proponent of it.  However, by 2013 I was concerned that the AVB development was dragging behind the needs of the live sound market, and after Infocomm in June of that year I was thinking that it might succeed if it could be integrated with Dante, who by then was well established with major players in our market like Yamaha and Shure. Later that summer, I visited the AVnu testing lab in New Hampshire, and was still somewhat hopeful about AVB's prospects, but after AES in November of 2013, after the release of the AES-67 inter-operability standard, I peered into my crystal ball and wrote, "Audinate's Dante has won the race, while AVB is still being tweaked by the mechanics over in the pit lane. ".  That was further reinforced by what I my visit to Infocomm last year, and even more so this year. ]

And

. So where are we today?  I no longer need my crystal ball--Dante is currently the defacto audio networking solution for the live sound industry. ]

 

[nine93]

 
Yes - the ICRON and the Startech are the same thing (ICRON makes it for Startech).  Be sure it is the GB LAN version that does iso audio.
 
Yes a major improvement to the F-1.
 
NOT THIS ONE!  - does not support iso audio
http://www.l-com.com/usb-icron-usb-20-ranger-2304-lan-4-port-usb-20-ethernet-lan-usb-extender
 
NOT THIS ONE! - does not do 1GB LAN
https://www.icronshop.com/home/usb-20-ranger-2304
 
 
 
THIS ONE!

USB 2.0 RG2304GE-LAN

RG2304GE-LAN is a 4-port isochronous USB 2.0 extender across Gigabit Ethernet Local Area Network (LAN)

https://www.icronshop.com/icron-brand/usb-20-rg2304ge-lan
 

 
I just received this one from the mail: https://www.icronshop.com/home/ranger-2304ge-lan-
Internal is very different from the RG2304GE-LAN that you link above.
 

 

 

 

 

[rb2013]

   
I just received this one from the mail: https://www.icronshop.com/home/ranger-2304ge-lan-
Internal is very different from the RG2304GE-LAN that you link above.
 

 

 

 

That's because you bought the wrong one.
 
Here is one I have from Amazon and have posted the link to numerous times.
OP have linked to different various ones - some correct and some incorrect:
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-330-Feet-Ethernet-Extender-USB2G4LEXT2/dp/B00HFGQESY?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

 

[Muziqboy]

IMHO, The RedNet 3 utilizing the Mutec MC-3+ Smart Clock as a SPDIF Reclocker is truly a match made in heaven.
Big bucks for both of them but you do get what you pay for.
 
I have never ever heard Music played out of a headphone rig sound so close to the real thing. Just pure bliss!
This rig has been keeping me up all night until the wee hours of the morning.
Now I need to go to sleep. lol

 

[nine93]

 
That's because you bought the wrong one.
 
Here is one I have from Amazon and have posted the link to numerous times.
OP have linked to different various ones - some correct and some incorrect:
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-330-Feet-Ethernet-Extender-USB2G4LEXT2/dp/B00HFGQESY?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

Now I know

 
The naming scheme is so confusing.  I thought I'm buying the same one, except it is in silver.