[Muziqboy]

The Mutec I got does not have a USB input. I am only using it as a reclocker for the RedNet and hopefully a Word Clock if I can figure it out so there is no way to compare the two.

Rob has the USB version of the Mutec so he can do that.

 

[manishex]

How would you connect the TeraDak DC-30W to the DAC? All I see is a DC out.

 

[mhamel]

The Mutec I got does not have a USB input. I am only using it as a reclocker for the RedNet and hopefully a Word Clock if I can figure it out so there is no way to compare the two.

Rob has the USB version of the Mutec so he can do that.

 
It should be as straightforward as connecting the Mutec to the Word Clock In on the RedNet 3, then using RedNet Control to set it to sync to an external clock.
 
Then in Dante Controller, you can set the RedNet 3 as the master clock for the Dante network. 

 

[yuhengtiger]

 
Yes it is  - but worth it.  Intona is another route a bit cheaper - get the industrial version

Thank you! Can I use this ICRON alone with the F1? (no extra startech, rednet stuff ) Like connect the remote and local ICRON box with an internet cable, and it will provide good gavanic isolation and improve the S of F1?
 
Thanks!

 

[Muziqboy]

It should be as straightforward as connecting the Mutec to the Word Clock In on the RedNet 3, then using RedNet Control to set it to sync to an external clock.

Then in Dante Controller, you can set the RedNet 3 as the master clock for the Dante network. 

Thanks! I'll play around with it more tonight when I get home. The Mutec has like 6 BNC Word Clock outputs so not sure which 1 I should connect to.

 

[rb2013]

  Thanks,
Yes, I know. Galvanic isolation, DDC with different interfaces, recklocking, DSD/DoP to PCM conversion, word clock, etc.
Real Swiss army knife in a one box.
Not all of us can have all these nice boxes in the room.
And F1 has some sort of galvanic isolation too.
 
Summing up (in your enviroment):
1. Mutec alone is better than F1 powered with good LPS like Teradac DC30W.
2. PPA makes a small diference in SQ (it seems F1 and Mutec make good job cleaning USB)
3. Mutec needs to see 5vdc from USB but no need for LPS.
4. Uber chain with F1 and Icron/Startech is still better than Mutec alone
It's very informative.

Well the F-1 has isolation - but not complete galvanic isolation.
 
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
 
Thanks!

 

[rb2013]

   
Hi
 
Please compare Rednet 3 vs Mutec if it's not a problem.
How huge is the difference...ethernet vs very nice USB DDC
 
Rob please do the same

Oh you bet.
 
Face off of the giants.
 
Just saw this up in the classifeds:
 
Audience aRp2-TO  Regularly $1700 - for sale for $600.  Somebody buy this before I do.
 
I have the younger brother the aRp1 - Clarity Caps.  This one has uber totl Teflon caps.  Mine made a real difference.  All my AC line isolators and filters feed from it.
http://www.audience-av.com/news/?p=661

 

[rb2013]

  How would you connect the TeraDak DC-30W to the DAC? All I see is a DC out.

It feeds the DDC F-1 through a W4S Recovery.

 

[rb2013]

  Thank you! Can I use this ICRON alone with the F1? (no extra startech, rednet stuff ) Like connect the remote and local ICRON box with an internet cable, and it will provide good gavanic isolation and improve the S of F1?
 
Thanks!

Yes - the ICRON and the Startech are the same thing (ICRON makes it for Startech).  Be sure it is the GB LAN version that does iso audio.
 
Yes a major improvement to the F-1.
 
NOT THIS ONE!  - does not support iso audio
http://www.l-com.com/usb-icron-usb-20-ranger-2304-lan-4-port-usb-20-ethernet-lan-usb-extender
 
NOT THIS ONE! - does not do 1GB LAN
https://www.icronshop.com/home/usb-20-ranger-2304
 
 
 
THIS ONE!

USB 2.0 RG2304GE-LAN

RG2304GE-LAN is a 4-port isochronous USB 2.0 extender across Gigabit Ethernet Local Area Network (LAN)

https://www.icronshop.com/icron-brand/usb-20-rg2304ge-lan
 

 

[rb2013]

   
It should be as straightforward as connecting the Mutec to the Word Clock In on the RedNet 3, then using RedNet Control to set it to sync to an external clock.
 
Then in Dante Controller, you can set the RedNet 3 as the master clock for the Dante network. 

Thanks!  The RD3 is set for terminal but check that as well, I believe in RedNet Control.
 
I believe the Mutec 'Smart Clock' feature auto detects the sample rate.

 

[rb2013]

Thanks! I'll play around with it more tonight when I get home. The Mutec has like 6 BNC Word Clock outputs so not sure which 1 I should connect to.

It should autodetect - set to word clock function.  Set to 'Internal clock' - as the Mutec can also accept an atomic ext clock - then feed that to the other devices on the LAN.  Use the Word Clock 1A BNC (upper left most)

 

[jabbr]

Sweet set-up.  Speaking of JCAT - the kind owner of JCAT just emailed me - seeing if I wanted to try the JCAT USB card for a free trial.

I was like heck yeah.

So add that $500 card to the mix:
http://jplay.eu/jcat/

Maybe he'll lend me one of his Ref LAN cables as well.  That would be interesting.

Feed it with an LPS for the 5V USB if needed. Don't forget to set the jumpers accordingly.
With a bit of DIY, you can also prevent the card itself using 3.3V from the PCI connector and feed it also with an LPS or battery.

 

[KEGGER]

Of all the GB Lan Gizmos I wondered if any of this could of been used here,
Seems to be high speed industrial standard and scale-able even now, with cables galore.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand
 
http://www.cablinginstall.com/articles/print/volume-16/issue-4/features/data-center/practical-deployment-and-management-of-infiniband.html
 
And even inexpensive cards can be had, my dell server had 1 of these in it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Infinicon-900440-100-1-InfiniServ-4X-HCA-7104-HCA-128-LP-/301028397331

 

[KEGGER]

Still running the X-1 here, (for anyone interested in/considering the more "budget based" route here)
 
Only change I've made recently was adding my E180CC tube based buffer from the DAC output to amp/preamp.
(which I previously used on my main audio system from the DAC as well)
 
The digital performance I'm getting now on my pc is by far better than any I've had on my main audio system non pc related.
(and I'm still just running PC USB power to the X-1, as I have not got my updates for that part yet, but they will be coming)
 
So to sum it up this X-1 setup beats any cd-player, cd-player/dac I've ran in my systems here,
(that would be "medium range" HIFI cost/performance wise cd-player, cd-player/dac combos)
 
Thanks again Rob for the tip/card,
(It was just what I was looking to get)

 

[rw35]

I wonder why there appears to be no audio kit with Mini-GBIC SFP slots or SC/LC sockets... fibre is the best way to guarantee galvanic isolation.
 
Is it best to have the conversion done externally via FMC?