[Gummy]

Inspired by the ER-4S that's on sale in the forum...
Seller mentioned that he drove with IEM on.

Isn't that very dangerous with the good isolation?
I remembering reading in like the first page of the manual that came with the e2 that you shouldn't bike or drive with IEMs.

I think this is a serious matter as people could be endangering lives

What are your thoughts?

 

[tkam]

On long trips I've driven I do wear my at-em9r clip-on headphones with my mp3 player. They don't really isolate well and it's actually probably safer than sitting their switching cd's a bunch of times while driving.

 

[jesse_w]

This has been discussed before. You don't need to be able to hear to drive. Do you listen to your car stereo when driving? Do you listen to people talking? Cell phone? If you come from the distraction angle you shouldn't be allowed to do any of those things while driving if you can't listen to IEMs. The only audible indicator when driving is the horn, and its never something you need to hear if you're paying attention. As it is in a car you're fairly isolated, and with any of the above things going on you're as oblivious as you would be with IEM isolation.

-jesse

 

[go_vtec]

I've once tried E3c on a closed road (air strip) just to see how much it isolates. Even at full throttle, I can't hardly hear anything except for my own breathing (I nearly missed my shift). This is suprising since I was driving my Honda with full Mugen header/exhaust setup. It made driving 1/4 mile so distant (emotionally detached) as if I was playing a video game. I would not recommend trying headphones while driving in any public road for safety reason. My experience made me appreciate so much that I still have my hearing (I have a friend who can't hear).

 

[nismo96]

Not only is it unsafe, it's illegal in many areas. I would never drive or bike with IEMs on. I'd also think twice about walking outside with them as well.

On a side note, I would think that the individual meant that he no longer "travels" for work, so he no longer needs the IEMs. I travel so I can relate to the need for isolation for that purpose. Isolation is important for air travel among other things.

 

[AuroraProject]

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Originally Posted by jesse_w You don't need to be able to hear to drive. Do you listen to your car stereo when driving? Do you listen to people talking? Cell phone? -jesse

Right, the sirens on emergency vehicles are just there to look pretty I guess. I can hear a siren over my car stereo, cell phone, or a conversation.

 

[jesse_w]

If you pay attention to whats going on around you its not a problem. If the deaf can drive an IEM is not a problem.

-jesse

 

[nismo96]

IMO, the deaf are also generally more aware of their surroundings than we who have all our senses.

I stand by my statement that it's a bad idea to use any headphones while operating a vehicle. There may be special exceptions, but I'll be darned if I can't think of one.

 

[Edwood]

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Originally Posted by AuroraProject Right, the sirens on emergency vehicles are just there to look pretty I guess. I can hear a siren over my car stereo, cell phone, or a conversation.

Yes, you can see the flashing lights, as well as sometimes being able to hear them as well.

Anyways, I am comfiscating them from him, so he will not do that again. I've left him with adequate compensation.

BTW, for a long cross country drive, I've worn ear plugs as well, the road and engine noise just really got to me. And yes, I was the driver. How would wearing ear plugs be any different than a really well sound insulated luxury vehicle?

Of course if you had music blasting, that would be another story.

But yes, the hearing impaired are permitted to drive.

-Ed

 

[bubbagump]

link to the law on it in cali...

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27400.htm

 

[AuroraProject]

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Originally Posted by Edwood Yes, you can see the flashing lights, as well as sometimes being able to hear them as well. -Ed

In my experience you can hear them long before you see them. Here in California headphones while driving are illegal for that specific reason.

 

[greenhorn]

It is illegal because it's unsafe - for the drivers and for everybody around.

Would it have been safe, you would have had headphone jacks on the car stereos.

 

[Mike Scarpitti]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gummy Inspired by the ER-4S that's on sale in the forum... Seller mentioned that he drove with IEM on. Isn't that very dangerous with the good isolation? I remembering reading in like the first page of the manual that came with the e2 that you shouldn't bike or drive with IEMs. I think this is a serious matter as people could be endangering lives What are your thoughts?

The brave.....

 

[ricola_pak]

I personally don't believe there's much point to this debate.

Is talking on the cellphone always unsafe while driving? No.

Of course there are exceptions, but as long as there are risks they shouldn't be used at all.

Safety first is safety first. There's no point in taking any risks when yours and other people's lives are on the line.

 

[Edwood]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbagump link to the law on it in cali... http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27400.htm

Of course it still does not address those that are completely deaf.

There is an automatic exception, I would imagine.
But there are reasnable limits for the disabled. Should people that are completely blind be permitted to drive? That's a stupid rhetorical question, BTW.

-Ed