What's so bad about Bose?

Feb 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM Post #166 of 194
I bought some Triports used from another Head-fier just to try them.

Not the most accurate headphone, but they are great for the compressed Mp3s on my phone. They seem too fragile for portable use however, so they don't get much.

Perfect for today's mainstream compressed popular music
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Feb 23, 2010 at 7:12 PM Post #167 of 194
Bose's sound is actually quite nice imo. I actually enjoy their noise cancellation phones to an extent. The main problem that i have with Bose isn't the sound, but it's the quality of the product, i've got a roommate here who just won't budge when i tell him Bose is not reliable. He's switched between 4 different bose products in the past 6 months because they keep breaking on him. If their stuff just didn't break everytime i touched them, maybe i'd give them a try.
 
Mar 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM Post #169 of 194
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Originally Posted by SactoMan101 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
... I do agree that the Bose IEM is not that great--too much bass and sound isolation is not that good with the Bose-supplied ear tips.


Right there in their user guide is the disclaimer that they aren't mean to form a "tight, isolating seal." I know this argument is made against the Bose IEMs again and again ... "insufficient isolation." It's like complaining that a sports sedan with a moon roof doesn't provide enough "top down driving enjoyment." I can appreciate fact-based contention with Bose quality and design, but let's stick to fact, not bias or uncorroborated expectations.

BTW, that same manual boasts high quality sound and "deep, low notes" without using any audio enhancements from the player, which Bose discourages. Rather what people complain about, eh? Dramatic low end, accentuated fidelity? Bose -- populist hi-fi through skillful exaggeration.[1]

I'm not making an apologia for Bose, even though I just bought and burned in some IEMs that I bought for a reasonable price -- f-r-e-e. (So I can't complain, nor can I boast.)
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[1] I find this with my older, better Bose speakers. I get good bass response without much need for tonal control from my receiver. That's one of the things I've always liked about them ... that, and the direct/reflecting driver design. Mind you, many of their more recent speakers suck mightily, particularly those terrible center channel speakers. [/size]

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Originally Posted by crumpler /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I just popped by into an apple store today and auditioned a pair of Bose Around-Ears(AE). ... I might just have to take a closer/2nd listen before i decide whether to do the unthinkable and snag myself a pair!


I would buy them on the cheap if you can. They're not worth $139 (current price before rebate at my local BJ's warehouse club; and they come with an Apple USB charger, why I couldn't say), but if I had to buy some again, I'd guess they're as good as $30-$50 headphones. (Watch, now, someone will recommend $50 headphones by Sennh. or Shure that are better. I wouldn't know.)

But $139 ... I have to concur with others, for that you could buy some Grados, am I right?
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Someone in another thread mentioned liking Audio-Technica ATH-ES7s ... I priced them on Amazon, something like $60 plus a little shipping (YMMV depending on location). If they're good-sounding, that's a pretty serious markdown from their ~$269 MSRP.... They just don't have that renown bloomin booming Bose bass that some experience.[1][2]

[1] I don't, as I don't use much tone control.
[2] Particularly because I just determined that my second hand Nano 3G introduces distortion using the EQ settings.
 
Jun 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM Post #171 of 194
Wow, I just bought myself a Bose product, a QuietComfort 15 NC headphone. Never thought I would say that for sure!
 
It was looking for a good travel companion, didn't like the in-ear so was looking for other suggestions.  The very positive review at e.g. headphoneinfo.com got me curious to give it a try. After all the Bose bashing I was a bit sceptic at least... First impression was a big surprise: I liked it so much I bought one. The noise cancelling is awesome, never thought it would be that good to be honest. The sound quality was good for me also during traveling, not as DT880 with an amp, but no complaints at all.
 
I love it, my daily train commuting experience is way much better now without all the background hiss and I really enjoy the music at a modest volume level. I can't wait to give it a test drive on a long haul flight to Japan next month. 
So, it's not all that bad with Bose, here is a new and happy customer. 
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Jun 19, 2010 at 8:25 PM Post #172 of 194
Stitch, your needs directly address the positive aspects of the QC15. Because of pretty good noise canceling the QC15 manages to be a decent headphone for someone on the go, but fails for any user not needing NR at all or a listener who has arrived at their destination and is left with sub par sound once exterior sound has died down.
 
They are the only headphones Bose makes I would consider good, but only for one with the right needs. They are a hefty premium, regardless, however.
 
Jun 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM Post #173 of 194
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Wow, I just bought myself a Bose product, a QuietComfort 15 NC headphone. Never thought I would say that for sure!
 
It was looking for a good travel companion, didn't like the in-ear so was looking for other suggestions.  The very positive review at e.g. headphoneinfo.com got me curious to give it a try. After all the Bose bashing I was a bit sceptic at least... First impression was a big surprise: I liked it so much I bought one. The noise cancelling is awesome, never thought it would be that good to be honest. The sound quality was good for me also during traveling, not as DT880 with an amp, but no complaints at all.
 
I love it, my daily train commuting experience is way much better now without all the background hiss and I really enjoy the music at a modest volume level. I can't wait to give it a test drive on a long haul flight to Japan next month. 
So, it's not all that bad with Bose, here is a new and happy customer. 
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Have you tried IEMs?
 
Jun 20, 2010 at 3:16 AM Post #174 of 194
I'm not thrilled with the Triports, but my Cinemamate is a great 2.1 solution for an HDTV that switches between sources. Totally simple, and it sounds great with everything. If you don't want/need a receiver/full surround setup it really rocks and the simulated surround is surprisingly good. The subwoofer is awesome too, it really anchors the sound.
 
Jun 20, 2010 at 8:57 AM Post #175 of 194
I don't really care if someone says Bose is better than portable headphone X... I just get annoyed when people say it like it's the best or the only premium headphone out there out of ignorance. But the situation has improved since the early 2000's with IEMs quite popular, and they do have less influence outside of the USA.
 
Jun 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM Post #180 of 194

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