Godel Von
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The sound of W60 is somewhat too serious
The sound of W60 is somewhat too serious
interesting kit W80 same as the W30?
never heard of the W30 but I heard it seems more neutral than W40 in term of tonality, W40 has a wamrth to it so no its not the same, i woudlnt think.
Could someone tell me is some visual difference between w40, w50 and w60 without faceplates? Going to buy second hand w60 with no faceplates, doubt how I can be sure that it's w60, but not w50 or w40...
Under the faceplate on the out side of the iem the model number is printed. If you don't see it there don't buy it.
Yeah, I second that, the sound they have is very good.Thanks. Found it: W60. Just bought they from the strange guy, only earphones without faceplates and cable. But look like new and sound is really amazing
Just received the OKCSC metal plates for my W60s... the cracking plastic plate issue is the one thing about this iem that was virtually guaranteed to put me into a fit of apoplectic rage at the best of times... the best $40 I've spent in a while. They even look better than Westone's own.
Hey Twister6, pictures are above. This is the "black, obsidian" style. They have a gold too, but it's less impressive. Personally, while I'm aware of the manufacturer's defence of "you screwed in the plates too hard"... otherwise known as "user error"... I find it a long way from convincing.
Legally (under normal consumer protection laws) plates that begin cracking in a week after they've been replaced, as my last ones did (which replaced three (3) cracked ones from the previous owner), are not in legal parlance "fit for purpose".
In other words, anything sold needs to be designed with reasonable scope for stress known as "normal wear and tear"... i.e. for example, 'turning the screw too hard'.
Using metal screws on a thin plastic plate is a predictably flawed approach to a (pained but) laughingly well known problem.
That you can't buy a second hand W60 without reading about
1. missing plates,
2. cracked plates...
3. or no plates...
makes it abundantly clear that this is regretably the manufacturer's error.
Here's the thing, personally I love Westone's signature sound. I don't actually want to take pot shots at this company. I want Westone to challenge 1964, Noble and Empire Earz... etc on sound and manufacturing standards.
I want Westone to be selling these metal plates, which genuinely solves the problem. In my opinion, Westone commercially needs to fix this issue. The W80 may indeed have improved the plastic design so there's some more scope for "normal wear & tear"... But when using metal eliminates the issue for almost no significant cost... (probably much less given Westone's constantly needing to send out replacement plates, which to their credit they do). In manpower alone, this fix is a no-brainer.
OKCSC have spotted the issue and provided a solution. Westone, should just say, "thanks for that idea, now we're making the same things, even cheaper..." There's no shame in doing this. It's like when Apple famously included "the rubber bumper" when they screwed up signal on maybe the iPhone 3 or something. It's acknowledging and then mitigating the problem you created.
As far as weight goes, it's absolutely negligible. Even better, having them on provides the satisfying feeling of "pushing a better quality product in my ear" each time. (Akin to the way a German car has a nice solid door slam when you shut it.)
I presume this noticeable difference is due to the "plastic flex", that you've alluded to in your most recent W80 review, and which is in my non-civil engineering opinion the true cause of the plate splitting, and not the screwing the plates too hard in...
But we can agree to disagree... Julian