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Originally Posted by lhamp /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Not to belabor this, but I have to assume you aren't using um56 tips. With the custom tips the UM3X's are definitely a bit brighter... (If you search the W3 thread and this one I think you'll find some posts that confirm that observation).
Sorry...I should have mentioned that in my original post.... I frankly wasn't in love with the 3's before I got the UM56's.... and I never even listened to the UM3X's with the stock tips. As soon as I got them I put the UM56 tips on.
PS. I just A/B'd them before I posted this.... UM3X's with UM56 tips definitely brighter than W3 with UM56 tips.
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how odd, I agree with the soundstage comments. but then using UM56 will add more soundstage to any IEM IME
, but because of the distance to the eardrum; not because I think it changes the sound signature. I dont think it makes anything brighter; but simply tightens up the bass so it doesnt encroach on the mids and extends lower and higher. different ears.....
I had to post in here, in the last 24hrs i'm pretty sure the vibration has gone away or is going away (no burn in on armatures huh??). but doug wont have any of it, he insists on sending me a new set of IEMs regardless. it was his first statement in the return email. good stuff and westone really do deserve the good props they get for great customer support.
as to the UM3X. natural is the word I would use for them. the mids might be a micrometer forward, but I think its only very slight, just enough to make them sound natural to me while keeping my interest. treble detail is most certainly there, but not peaky, which is a GOOD thing IMO. This quality is something that I search out in most parts of my rig across source, cabling, amping, op-amps cap choice etc so i'm getting along pretty well with them.
I think they would and do make a decent monitor. I used them for a little diddling around on the keyboards/synths in logic studio last night and they handled themselves very well. but they do lack maybe just a touch of the sub-bass snarl in some electronic music, because that is more a product of colouring anyway, so it shouldnt be there in a monitor. not lacking in extension or quantity to me, but basically...natiural. its so well controlled that it doesnt get euphonic in the lower frequencies. it has the sound that I just know is gonna grow on me big time. best IEM i've owned to date for my ears
compared to the SE530 hmmm, havent sat down and analyzed them really yet. I will do, but I want to give them a longer listen to nail that down if I can. I havent played around with tips for them yet, but using medium shure black foams which I never used on the shures as I found them to make SE530 muddy and a bit uncontrolled, contributing to their rep for boomy bass. I used comply standard size (not short) on my westones and trimmed triaflanges (stalk and tip) to double flange.
my UM56 wont stay on the UM3X
it just squeezes right off every time. they stay on the SE530 because of the ridge on the longer tube of the shures, but I guess the hole got bigger (I have the soft silicone ones) I had troubles with them from the beginning though and the lady in brisbane where I got the impressions has taken ill with RSI and doesnt do them there at the westone lab anymore apparently. so that left me in a spot for refit. So I guess I should probably do any comparisons to the shures without custom tips for be fair.
listening to groove armada at the moment. and there is certainly synergy with iriver->D10->UM3X (opa2350 with AD8616 and topkit) and isnt hissy enough for me to bother using an impedance adapter with the Lisa III fed by that rig. I actually think they sound fantastic with my DIYMOD, to the point where I may use that rig more again as I find the UM3X to have even better synergy with that for some music (rock, metal etc) with d10 fed by VCAP I can be satisfied with either rig; for SE530 the D10 as source helped to clean up the bass; moreso than the DIYMOD. that sub-bass-snarl is actually more present with this rig and the dock doesnt hurt either
I can see how the style of IEMs may not appeal to others with a penchant for more smiley EQ. but why not just give them one, they respond to EQ very well; as you would expect
these are still early impressions and I actually didnt plan on posting this much, until I did some more comparisons. but I had to come on and give props to Doug.
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo
Sorry guys. I wasn't trying to beat anyone into submission, just sharing some ideas. I've just deleted the better part of my posts here. May the discussion thrive without me.
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man; dont worry about it, bring it on, i'm gonna be spouting a bit, so lets make it a party LOL
