VSONIC V7007 (former "GR08") - Info & expectations thread

Nov 9, 2012 at 10:55 AM Post #466 of 924
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LOL, got anything new specifically on the GR08? It will get back on track as info arrives and the pseudo science fades. Until then folks interested in the GR08 have already stopped reading this thread because there's nothing to read other than a discussion of some of it's component parts etc.

 
 
So, according to your logic, the lack of new information regarding any specific product with a dedicated thread (in this case, the GR08) makes it alright for some to go to that thread and derail it with posts that aren't realated to the thread subject?!? That's just the oposite of the reason and logic behind a forum... 
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Nov 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM Post #467 of 924
Okay putente, we'll only share Vsonic GR08 info here from this post on.
 
 
You started this thread in March, it's now November, I think I'll send Thousand Sound an email.
 
I can't recall who answered, but yes I emailed the new Engilsh / Swedish company and they won't reshell the GR07.
 
Nov 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM Post #468 of 924
What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 
 
Nov 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM Post #469 of 924
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So, according to your logic, the lack of new information regarding any specific product with a dedicated thread (in this case, the GR08) makes it alright for some to go to that thread and derail it with posts that aren't realated to the thread subject?!? That's just the oposite of the reason and logic behind a forum... 
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Why so serious? Point was that stuff happens and good luck with that.
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Nov 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM Post #470 of 924
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What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

$350-400 seems very steep to be honest, Vsonic is valued because of the price to performance ratio, at that price they are competing with the likes of Westone 4's or even lower end custom IEMs.
 
Nov 9, 2012 at 12:54 PM Post #471 of 924
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What is the expected price going to be? $350-400? I'm expecting a big VSonic WIN when this things comes out. 

 
 
I guess the sweetspot for these would be $300, but we have to wait and see what VSONIC will decide. They are similar to the K3003 in shape and technology (and they add the detachable cable), and we know how much that costs...
 
Nov 9, 2012 at 8:27 PM Post #472 of 924
From Lendmeurears' facebook page "And for those who are curious about the eta of GR08, it will be late December or early Januaray. It is still rather difficult to pinpoint the exact release date as they have certain difficulty in manufacturing the product."
 
Nov 9, 2012 at 9:22 PM Post #473 of 924
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It's just a random picture of diffraction.  What I mean is sound doesn't 'like' to travel down echoey plastic tunnels, I think the CK10 might use Titanium but I don't have a picture or blueprint of the nozzle.
 
It will depend on the matter, having a metal nozzle isn't always going to give you substantial gains, tuning of the driver itself is a lot more important. I would dare someone to take out that damper on the CK10 and see if the nozzle is truly metal inside, if anything a replacement damper can be bought and placed inside. 
 
The FR, THD and IR are only important if you're looking for an IEM with flat FR, low THD and fast IR decay........ I'm not sure if that's all we're actually looking for in an IEM.
 
That's the whole point of using better materials, to reduce resonance which will result in a more even response and low THD, etc. 
 
Even if two IEM's have identical THD levels, or one is higher, or similar impulse response, perhaps they just have different time envelopes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSR_envelope#ADSR_envelope, overtones or harmonics, which in turn result in a different and unique tone in each one..... after all there is no perfect IEM in THD, IMD or IR.
 
Overtones and harmonics are of the recording, the IEM's work is just to present what's given. Sure an IEM does add a tone as purity is impossible, but the parameters are mostly set by the main criteria in FR, THD, etc. in trying to get close to the source as possible, that's fidelity. 
 
If IEM's all had perfect IR, perfect square waves and 0.00001% THD, IMD... well then they'd all sound nice and transparent, open windows to the recording without any tone of their own (apart from the soundspace size and related 3D perceptions), in reality they all sound slightly 'different' and we can't really anlyze 'how' they sound different.
 
That's assuming perfection, which isn't a reality, even stuff with very outstanding technicality can be slightly different because of certain small characteristics. We can realize how they're different, one just has to analyze every detail. 
 

 
Here is an example, lots of THD and choppy square waves - http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-re-262-and-re-272-ear-headphones-measurements, neither graph relates to human perception, and neither graph can tell me the differences between the RE262 and RE272
 
Which makes perfect sense, since graphs like that can't really tell me the difference between a clarinet and flute either, only show me a nonsensical difference.
 
Sure it can, they share the driver but the RE262 has more laid back midhighs and treble, focuses more on bass and midrange. I can deduce that by just looking at the FR graphs,  HRTF will relate it to human perception. If you can't make sense of it, that's another matter, if you're expecting it to tell you how you will perceive the sound and all the subjective factors involved, you're making ridiculous requests. 
 

 
Nov 9, 2012 at 11:55 PM Post #474 of 924
If it's in the $300 range, I'll buy them tout suite. Saw that a local shop has the Ultrasone IQs in stock, but those are around $1k
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Nov 10, 2012 at 5:48 AM Post #477 of 924
My guess would be $400 or so considering the construction of the prototypes we have seen, this is not a simple and cheap earphone to make. I just hope it comes out before I get antsy and buy something else I might regret purchasing.
 
Nov 10, 2012 at 5:56 AM Post #478 of 924
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From Lendmeurears' facebook page "And for those who are curious about the eta of GR08, it will be late December or early Januaray. It is still rather difficult to pinpoint the exact release date as they have certain difficulty in manufacturing the product."

 
 
That timeframe makes sense, as usually VSONIC products are released first into the domestic chinese market and then take between 2 weeks and a month to become available to the rest of the world, first from chinese eBay sellers and then from Lendmeurears. Taking the new GR07 BASS as an example, it became available in China by the end of September (26th IIRC), by the middle of October (2 weeks later) you could get it on eBay from chinese sellers and Lendmeurears just started selling them this week...
 
Nov 10, 2012 at 6:33 AM Post #479 of 924
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My guess would be $400 or so considering the construction of the prototypes we have seen, this is not a simple and cheap earphone to make. I just hope it comes out before I get antsy and buy something else I might regret purchasing.

 
^ This.
 

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