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With respect to the argument that "Head-Fi and HeadWize can coexist, why can't another one" -- the truth is that traffic on HeadWize has plummeted. It's really only the DIY forum that still has substantial activity. Plus you have to remember that interest in headphones isn't something that is increasing at a huge rate. |
Okay, well, Cmoy was having some serious hardware problems. Actually this was only remedied to a fully usable extent, over the last month or so. If it were not for Jude (a big thank you for this btw), we would have been without a headphone forum. Postings would have died down, maybe someone else would have started it up...whatever the case, Jude took the reigns. The ONLY reason Headwize died down was instability of the servers. If the system had been stable, and Chu had accepted donations, we would probably not have a Head-fi, but the offer from AA would still stand.
Now the second point is actually horribly false. Right now I am in too much of a rush to find stats, but hi-fi has decreased, by that I mean 2-channel stereo. What has increased dramatically is Home Theatre. What HAS increased and keeps increasing at near exponential rates is portable audio and headphones to match. If you HONESTLY think the headphone market has not taken off in the past 5 years you are blind. With cds, cdrs, cdrws, mds, and mp3s, the necessity for headphones has grown, moreover, headphones are "en vogue" right now. If the majority of them suck, that is the result of ignorance on the part of the consumer vs. the manufactured products. Koss 35s as we all know are giant killers and are cheap. They smoke nearly every phone that can be driven adequately by a pcdp et al. They are discontinued...the vast majority of the public is clueless about them. There IS a market for good sound if more people understood. This point if fairly moot in relation to having a dedicated headphone forum at AA. However, education is the key.
Markl, I am sorry that you are not here to help educate. Why do you bother posting your opinions then? Are you a troll? A thread crapper? Or do you want your opinions heard, and hopefully someone will follow suit and discover what you interpret to be the grandiose headphone experience ever.
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We have the ability here to mobilize a lot of headphone geeks here to do something that may ultimately not be in their best interest. |
The fact that you use the term geek indicates that this is some sort of anti-social and shameful underground hobby that shoudl not get out, a la comic book collecting, hacking code, and role playing. You sound an awful lot like a bunch of lead-headed jocks that I went to highschool with. I am not saying you are one; but, you are coming across like that to me. This is a hobby that I would like EVERYONE to experience. I want my wife, my mom, my best friends to all love headphones and strive to appreciate and ultimately experience what music can sound like. I can't say they will enjoy music more or less than they do now...but given my experiences and the experiences of most on this board, itis evident that they won't dislike music more. So we can lend a helping hand.
I won't deal with your replies to tanfenton, he can do that himself.
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Creation of an aa forum would dilute the pool of participants both here and at the new site. There just aren't that many of us to go around. With fewer and fewer active members on each site, what happens? The community dies. What makes Head-Fi so great is that you and I can have this conversation in real time, not have to wait 2 days to see if anyone has answered your post. |
This I will reply to. Um....are you only ever posting to this forum? I post to at least 30 different ones online. I would post to both aa and head-fi, as I do now. The reason I don't post to AA more is because I am not as interested in the topics of conversation. I think the re will not be a dilution but rather we will increase the pool. We seem to disagree objectively here. So we will have to agree to disagree and drop it. Only experience would prove who is right. You sadly chose to not let fate determine the outcome. Your choice. Your right.
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Exactly-- his custom built no holds barred, not commercially available amp which he has great pride in designing and building coloring his view of how it compares to the Grand Slamms. |
WOW! I didn't know you were secretly Kevin in disguise. I think speaking for him is extremely immature and obviously ignorant. Secondly...you use the term "colouring" never hearing either system right? Hmmmm....so what we really have here is you being a speaker snob. I just have nothing to say here. IF you want to believe that speakers are inherenetly better then headphones that is your right...but that is not an objective truth. I don't care if 2/3 of the world believes it...they BELIEVE it to be true but it is not objectively so...1/3 don't think so...
Jude who can afford a speaker setup, Hirsch who can as well, Nik, Jatinder, Kelly, myself.....we all can buy an amazing speaker setup, but we choose to listen to headphones. Hirsch and kelly have good-decent ones...but ask them, they listen to headphones more. Nik doesn't want headphones. Why? Because he BELIEVES them to be better. Remember, he didn't come to this conclusion after owning the R10 and the Nik super-overthetop-10R-uber-godly amp...
no.....no he came to this conclusion on his own, through listening to many setups. This is the type of experience I would like spread on AA. If there is a guy out there with what could retail to be a $50 000 setup (his amp would retail for about $15000, he has the Linn Sondek $20 000, his cables are dumb in price and his R10s retail for $4000), he could spend what he wants on speakers but he doesn't want to.
Please lets let Kevin tell us why he loves his Stax as much as he does..
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Headphones are an audio backwater at the present moment. Diluting the information across multiple web-sites and making people hunt and search all over creation does not serve the hobby well, IMHO. |
They will remain backwater if we don't get the word out there....placing a headphone forum on the most read audiophile website is an obvious way to project us out of the swamp. We won't dilute the information, we will simply have double the information. Perhaps we will learn a bunch as well. We can't be the holders of the headphones and keep it secret....placing a link is not going to get as much exposure as an entirely dedicated forum.
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Once we hit "critical mass" some time in the future, it would make more sense to add a new forum at aa. Now is not that time. |
You assume we will hit critical mass by remaining the same....this is not true. You also assume we will have a chance in the future to add a headphone forum at aa. We have the chance now, who says we will have that same opportunity in the future? Again...assumptions. We have the chance NOW...lets take it.