Vali 2 tube rolling
Aug 27, 2019 at 9:07 PM Post #4,381 of 6,436
A group of four went through the 8 tubes I am sending to Schiit. 6sn7 or equivalent.
top four choices, (the tubes they liked the most and the order)

Ken-Rad VT 231 black glass
Cbs/Hytron 5692
Melz 1578
RCA grey glass 1942

It is early, I have more people who will do a listen so with a larger group the order could change a lot before I am done. There will be a pretty solid contingent who are into classical music and that could really vary the outcome.

Interesting. Were you using the Vali 2? If so, it just goes to show how far the synergy thing goes. I really liked the CBS/Hytron in the Vali 2. I mean really liked it, although I've only rolled a few tubes through it so far. Pulled it out and stuck it in the Lyr 3, and zzzzzzzzz. That 5692 and the Lyr 3 just don't like each other. Don't know why, but that same exact tube that wowed me in the Vali is bloated and lifeless in the Lyr.
 
Aug 27, 2019 at 9:10 PM Post #4,383 of 6,436
Aug 27, 2019 at 9:10 PM Post #4,384 of 6,436
Interesting. Were you using the Vali 2? If so, it just goes to show how far the synergy thing goes. I really liked the CBS/Hytron in the Vali 2. I mean really liked it, although I've only rolled a few tubes through it so far. Pulled it out and stuck it in the Lyr 3, and zzzzzzzzz. That 5692 and the Lyr 3 just don't like each other. Don't know why, but that same exact tube that wowed me in the Vali is bloated and lifeless in the Lyr.

They were in an amp I built for the purpose. I have the same issues with the BH crack compared to the Vali 2, I also wanted something with dual volume controls so each channel could be adjusted just a bit.
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 9:49 PM Post #4,385 of 6,436
A group of four went through the 8 tubes I am sending to Schiit. 6sn7 or equivalent.
top four choices, (the tubes they liked the most and the order)

Ken-Rad VT 231 black glass
Cbs/Hytron 5692
Melz 1578
RCA grey glass 1942

It is early, I have more people who will do a listen so with a larger group the order could change a lot before I am done. There will be a pretty solid contingent who are into classical music and that could really vary the outcome.


I've managed to accumulate 3 out of 4 and if you cut me some slack and allow 1945 vs 1942 RCA Gray Glass, I'd have all 4. :wink:
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 9:55 PM Post #4,386 of 6,436
I've managed to accumulate 3 out of 4 and if you cut me some slack and allow 1945 vs 1942 RCA Gray Glass I'd have all 4. :wink:
And you have the Foton ribbed plate and Frankie, also in the final four is a Tung Sol Mouse Ear that I really like. That just leaves the Sylvania Bad Boy and I am sure you have that one.

It came in 5th but the voting was very close between four and five. Using a 100 point system similar to what was used on DAC’s, same music and criteria.
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 9:58 PM Post #4,387 of 6,436
Yep. I have them all except the Tung Sol mouse-ear. I must get around to snagging one of those.
 
Aug 27, 2019 at 10:04 PM Post #4,388 of 6,436
Later tests will have Mullard and Brimar and a friend promised to sneak in one tube that dreams are made of. I am fashioning a cage that can be flipped down over pricey tubes so they do not have to be encased in pvc for those tests.
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 10:09 PM Post #4,389 of 6,436
Aug 27, 2019 at 10:12 PM Post #4,390 of 6,436
Yep. I have them all except the Tung Sol mouse-ear. I must get around to snagging one of those.

I have one I bought from Brent Jesse. Nicely matched triodes that both hover on the minimum good line. It sounds minimum good too, but I assume that's because it tests minimum good. :smile:
 
Aug 27, 2019 at 10:16 PM Post #4,391 of 6,436
So what exactly is min. acceptable for 6SN7 on a Triplett 3444?
 
Aug 27, 2019 at 10:16 PM Post #4,392 of 6,436
I have one I bought from Brent Jesse. Nicely matched triodes that both hover on the minimum good line. It sounds minimum good too, but I assume that's because it tests minimum good. :smile:
That guy is a great seller!






Possibly several years ago, but definitely not now, the Lyr tube rolling thread has some unhappy campers who bought tubes recently. Including me.
 
Aug 27, 2019 at 10:17 PM Post #4,393 of 6,436
I thought I was the only one here with 300B's. :stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
This is a 6sn7 equivalent and once again there is a wager involved. There are supposed to be a handful in existence and he has two. I have an inkling what they are only because I know who his dad and grandfather were.
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 10:32 PM Post #4,394 of 6,436
There are supposed to be a handful in existence and he has two

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they are 2 of the 5 or 6 rare 'Good Sounding' GE's that were part of a bad production run. Most were destroyed once the error was discovered, but a handful made it out of the GE plant and into the hands of collectors. :smirk:
 
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Aug 27, 2019 at 11:21 PM Post #4,395 of 6,436
Interesting. Were you using the Vali 2? If so, it just goes to show how far the synergy thing goes. I really liked the CBS/Hytron in the Vali 2. I mean really liked it, although I've only rolled a few tubes through it so far. Pulled it out and stuck it in the Lyr 3, and zzzzzzzzz. That 5692 and the Lyr 3 just don't like each other. Don't know why, but that same exact tube that wowed me in the Vali is bloated and lifeless in the Lyr.
:astonished:
 

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