[Hapster]

Wait, no I apologize, 30-pin to 3.5mm is the l9 connector. Since it's 30-pin to usb it should send digital out. Now as for bypassing I don't know, but it will send it through the v-moda's dac.

All of dacs I've ever used consume at least some battery off my device. I don't know if there's any way around it, except of course charging it with the verza.

 

[DrSheep]

USB is digital with DAC bypass; 3.5mm is analog line out with no DAC bypass.

 

[Hapster]

Now I'm confused. The main reason I bought the Verza was because I understood that it would bypass the iPods internal dac. The following thread actually convinced me to finally pull the trigger and buy one.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/678765/ipods-and-external-dacs#post_9762986

This post says that the external dac will be used as the verza is MFI certified and I am using 30 pin to USB.

Is this not the case?

All that said, The verza has definitely made a significant difference. I'd just like to know if the internal dac is actually bypassed.

EDIT: whether the dac is being used or not though, this still doesn't explain why the ipod battery is draining a lot faster when connected to verza. Has anybody else noticed this?[/quote
I think it has something to do with like how you hook a 600ohm headphone up to your ipod it drains a lot faster.

Who knows how much power the ipod is sending out into the dac since it's bypassing the internals, my guess is a lot.

 

[Dizzle77]

As the verza comes with a rechargeable battery, I thought it would be able to power it's own dac. Before I got the verza, I was only charging my ipod every 4-5 days, but now I'll need to do it every day.vAlso my e17 never used to draw power from the ipod, but maybe that's something to do with it only acting as an external amp when connected?

Before I bought the verza, I did a lot of reading, but never saw this battery drain mentioned. I think if I'd known before then I Would have thought twice before picking one up, especially I ally as they're quite expensive.

 

[Hapster]

As the verza comes with a rechargeable battery, I thought it would be able to power it's own dac. Before I got the verza, I was only charging my ipod every 4-5 days, but now I'll need to do it every day.vAlso my e17 never used to draw power from the ipod, but maybe that's something to do with it only acting as an external amp when connected?

Before I bought the verza, I did a lot of reading, but never saw this battery drain mentioned. I think if I'd known before then I Would have thought twice before picking one up, especially I ally as they're quite expensive.

Idk what you're talking about e17 ravaged the battery on my ipod :O

I actually haven't noticed the vamp taking a whole lot in comparison

 

[Dizzle77]

Idk what you're talking about e17 ravaged the battery on my ipod :O

I actually haven't noticed the vamp taking a whole lot in comparison

 
Slight mistype there. I only ever used the e17 with my iPhone4. Definitely no battery drain with that. Never got round to trying ipod+e17, as I sold e17 shortly after buying iPod. 
 
I'm assuming the behaviour should be the same though whether using iPod or iPhone. Unless iOS version also plays a factor?
 
EDIT: I suppose what I'm trying to understand is, even if the versa does drain idevice battery, why does it need to even do so when it has it's own rechargeable battery. That's what I don't get, but then again I don't know enough about these kind of things, hence why I'm looking for answers.

 

[Hapster]

When I say ipod I mean ipod touch 5. Which is pretty darn close to a iphone.

The internal battery is used, the reason your ipod drains is because it's sending out more electricity into the vamp. If you set your phone out put it on max volume and just played it via the speaker, it'd drain in the same time

 

[Sound Eq]

from where can i buy this microUSB to microUSB Cable, i can't find it anywhere

 

[DrSheep]

  from where can i buy this microUSB to microUSB Cable, i can't find it anywhere

Get one from VentureCraft or eBay.
 
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/japanshop/c/0000000117/

 

[Sound Eq]

i couldn't find it on ebay, can u send me a link
 
and the other site is in chinese

 

[Hapster]

Verza actually comes with a nice 90 degree micro usb to micro usb

Update: really enjoying the unit so far. Saved $100 by using adhesive velcro instead of buying the metallo case

I really like the 3D setting as well, goes extremely well with a surround sound set up and works well with a PA system too. Haven't tried it with car audio yet.

 

[DrSheep]

  i couldn't find it on ebay, can u send me a link
 
and the other site is in chinese

Here is what I called the Rakuten Trick.
 
1, view the item you want to buy from Rakuten JP, make sure you view the pic.
2, go over to Rakuten US site and view that item in your history.
3, check out as usual, and ignore the international shipping warning, as VentureCraft does ship overseas.

 

[Sound Eq]

so besides rakuten no other online store sells such cables that is so wierd
 
can someone provide a link to a store other than rakuten

 

[Hapster]

so besides rakuten no other online store sells such cables that is so wierd

can someone provide a link to a store other than rakuten

If you want one so badly I'll sell you one.

 

[camaker]

Is the Clip+/Clip Zip compatible with the Vamp Verza? I was thinking of picking one up to use as a FLAC player, but wanted to make sure it would work with my amp first. Thanks!