Sorry, new here…“Go to APT-X site, one notebook supports it” and “APT-X has some cool features in the FUTURE, but now 99% of consumers cannot take advantage of it (like APT-X LL of 40ms).” Sorry but those statements are untrue, borderline blatant lies.
Perhaps it has a sound profile, that masks the loss in detail, since it’s claimed that these cans sound the same as when cabled. But facts are facts. It’s not using a lossless technology, far from it. Notice how he mentions (almost as if it’s a feature in itself) that when out and about, you won’t hear the difference from cabled or wireless. He might also refrain from mentioning any truth about the actual latency, noise floor etc. of his product. I could try and google all night long, to no avail.
I think perhaps
Yaroslav said it best:
I love the smell of bull in the morning. This kind of talk is even worse than talk on golden cables that "improve the sound", diamond HDMI cables and such.
So far there is no single mention of
V-MODA being able to do Apt-X in this thread (but a very long list of features that does indeed look nice), so I have to assume V-MODA does not have Apt-X license unless Val explicitly says otherwise. I really hope it does.
TL;DR if it does support Apt-X, the sound off iPhone and such will still be worse than on wired version. If it does not support Apt-X, the sound off everything will be worse, and I don't think it is wise to spend more than, say, $100 on a non-Apt-X enabled headset. If it does not support Apt-X, there is no way the bold part of the quote could possibly be true.
1. If a bluetooth headphone supports Apt-X, it indeed can sound very close to its wired version, but usually don't (has to include a good DAC inside of the ear cup and there is still that acoustics problem; see Tyll of InnerFidelity on Momentum 2.0 wireless review to learn how wired and wireless versions usually compare). But, you still have to have a
source that supports Apt-X. MacBook Pro does it out of the box, you can buy an adapter for PCs, but a lot of really popular smartphones do not!
iPhone does not support Apt-X. Nexus does not support Apt-X to avoid licensing fees. Same for 1+1 AFAIR. Even if Crossfade Wireless supports Apt-X, there is no way you can get the same clarity on iPhone or a Nexus phone.
2. If it does not support Apt-X, well, the sound quality should be audibly bad. If you wonder about that, you can get one of the Sony wireless headphones, they basically have a profile switch on them between common Bluetooth CSR and Apt-X, basically, Apt-X on and Apt-X off. MDR-1ABT and MDR-10RBT will do. Just pair them with a good Apt-X enabled source (Sony smartphone, MacBook Pro, etc.) and test it out. The differences are very audible — like comparing a 192 MP3 to 320 MP3.
Head-Fi forums have some great investigations on Apt-X quality and overall bluetooth headphones quality, so I advise anybody who's into that to lurk around.
P.S. I am no hater, and I own 3 V-MODA products, but this is just plain funny.
I think that when a company states 40ms of latency on the supposedly “low latency” apt-x codec and 1.9ms on the “live” codec, if those numbers are even remotely true, that’s a HUGE difference when talking real world applications such as doing live tracking/monitoring/playing/singing etc. basically doing any time critical professional work would be an issue.
