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I bought an iPhone from eBay in November. When it arrived, it's actually being shipped from China; I wouldn't buy it at the first place had I known it's from China. The seller advertised the item is shipped from the States.
So, I quickly open the Paypal dispute. I paid through Paypal, with my US Bank Check Card/ debit card. The seller offers me like 50% refund, and said that he/she was being frauded him/herself. It's not my fault, so I rejected the offer and ask him/her to give me the full refund, plus the shipping cost if he/she wanted the fake iPhone back. No replies.
Since it takes a long time for Paypal to process the dispute, I called US Bank to do the charge back. The representative said that I should be expecting a form to fill in, in about 7 days. 2 weeks later, I called back since I haven't received anymore information. I asked why didn't I get any additional information, forms to fill in, etc, but the representative said they've deposited the money and decided that I won the dispute; it was December 8th.
By December 24th at 00:05 a.m., I went home abroad, until March 1st. I was surprised to see a withdrawl of the original deposit from the charge back, from my January's account statement; the withdrawl was dated December 26, but I didn't know this until now, that I saw my account statement. FYI,I didn't use the internet banking.
Paypal sent me an email on December 23rd, at around 5 pm. There's no way I could have had time to pack the fake iPhone, and send it to the post office, because I had to be at the airport in less than 5 hours, and the post office would close by the time I got there.
I didn't really care about paypal dispute, since I got my money back from a card charge back; that's what I thought at the time.
But today, when I called US bank, talked to the fraud dept representative, who even dare to letting me know that he's going to hang up the phone because supposedly I gave him an attitude, then I asked to talk to his supervisor.
His supervisor was calm and patient. But, when I asked him what's going on with the withdrawal of the deposit money from the charge back, he said that they didn't have the required documents to follow through with the claim. I told him that I called the dept 2 weeks after I filed the dispute, and that his dept said that I won the dispute and didn't need to do anything else. He still insisted that I needed to fill in the documents required.
But I didn't receive the forms to fill in! And when I asked who told me that I won the dispute, he said that he didn't have that information/ recordings about that. (Wow, so US Bank doesn't even know which employees handle which problems/disputes!) Then, I asked whose fault was it, that I didn't receive the required forms to fill in; he said, 'It's the Post Office.'
Is there anything I could do to get my money back? I could've done the paypal dispute process, had they informed me faster. Heck, I could've also fill out the forms that US Bank wanted me to fill in, had they sent me those forms. But it's them who told me that I've won the dispute. Now, 60 days has passed from the December 8th, when US bank originally deposited the money, and they said I'm not getting my money back unless the seller returns them, which is impossible since I wouldn't do all this lengthy process in the first place if the seller would return all my money. HELP!
So, I quickly open the Paypal dispute. I paid through Paypal, with my US Bank Check Card/ debit card. The seller offers me like 50% refund, and said that he/she was being frauded him/herself. It's not my fault, so I rejected the offer and ask him/her to give me the full refund, plus the shipping cost if he/she wanted the fake iPhone back. No replies.
Since it takes a long time for Paypal to process the dispute, I called US Bank to do the charge back. The representative said that I should be expecting a form to fill in, in about 7 days. 2 weeks later, I called back since I haven't received anymore information. I asked why didn't I get any additional information, forms to fill in, etc, but the representative said they've deposited the money and decided that I won the dispute; it was December 8th.
By December 24th at 00:05 a.m., I went home abroad, until March 1st. I was surprised to see a withdrawl of the original deposit from the charge back, from my January's account statement; the withdrawl was dated December 26, but I didn't know this until now, that I saw my account statement. FYI,I didn't use the internet banking.
Paypal sent me an email on December 23rd, at around 5 pm. There's no way I could have had time to pack the fake iPhone, and send it to the post office, because I had to be at the airport in less than 5 hours, and the post office would close by the time I got there.
I didn't really care about paypal dispute, since I got my money back from a card charge back; that's what I thought at the time.
But today, when I called US bank, talked to the fraud dept representative, who even dare to letting me know that he's going to hang up the phone because supposedly I gave him an attitude, then I asked to talk to his supervisor.
His supervisor was calm and patient. But, when I asked him what's going on with the withdrawal of the deposit money from the charge back, he said that they didn't have the required documents to follow through with the claim. I told him that I called the dept 2 weeks after I filed the dispute, and that his dept said that I won the dispute and didn't need to do anything else. He still insisted that I needed to fill in the documents required.
But I didn't receive the forms to fill in! And when I asked who told me that I won the dispute, he said that he didn't have that information/ recordings about that. (Wow, so US Bank doesn't even know which employees handle which problems/disputes!) Then, I asked whose fault was it, that I didn't receive the required forms to fill in; he said, 'It's the Post Office.'
Is there anything I could do to get my money back? I could've done the paypal dispute process, had they informed me faster. Heck, I could've also fill out the forms that US Bank wanted me to fill in, had they sent me those forms. But it's them who told me that I've won the dispute. Now, 60 days has passed from the December 8th, when US bank originally deposited the money, and they said I'm not getting my money back unless the seller returns them, which is impossible since I wouldn't do all this lengthy process in the first place if the seller would return all my money. HELP!