[pietcux]

Maybe you saved 277 €........

 

[Hairspray]

   
Only fools think they can predict the future, so you shouldn't blame yourself too hard
 
Just get the Signature instead

 
thanks for your compassion  

but i'm still very mad about it... seriously, 277 euros for a brand new pro 2900, that's ridiculous.
i have no doubt that the Signature DJ is a headphone of the highest calibre but 800 euros (about $1000, yeah 1000!) for a white plastic closed can that almost looks like a gas-station can for teenies seems a bit too much imo...
why the heck did they name it "DJ" anyway? DJs are neither rich nor audiophiles

i know my question is "ApplesVsOranges"ish, but would you say the 2900 is superior to the Senn HD 600?

 

[Hairspray]

Maybe you saved 277 €........

 
haha..., is the 2900 that bad compared to the DJ?
now that the 2900 is 389 euros, would you say it is overpriced?

 

[pietcux]

They are totally different. The HD 650 is very balanced and has a treble rolloff that is good for many but veiled for others. The PRO 2900 has more bass and more treble. And the treble are sibilant for many, some appreciate them. Ihad both in paralell for some month. Compared directly, the HD 650 sound a little anemic first but more refined. The Signature PRO sounds like a much faster HD 650 to me. It has similar levels of bass, mids and treble, but sounds more alive. The SIG DJ is the same, but adds a phenomenal bass. And it looks much better in person as on most pictures. Hope this helps.

 

[ardilla]

They are totally different. The HD 650 is very balanced and has a treble rolloff that is good for many but veiled for others. The PRO 2900 has more bass and more treble. And the treble are sibilant for many, some appreciate them. Ihad both in paralell for some month. Compared directly, the HD 650 sound a little anemic first but more refined. The Signature PRO sounds like a much faster HD 650 to me. It has similar levels of bass, mids and treble, but sounds more alive. The SIG DJ is the same, but adds a phenomenal bass. And it looks much better in person as on most pictures. Hope this helps.

 
Thanks for the compariosn - I really like that you compared them to the HD650. Makes me want the Sig Pro

 

[pietcux]

   
haha..., is the 2900 that bad compared to the DJ?
now that the 2900 is 389 euros, would you say it is overpriced?

 
I do not want to discredit the PRO 2900. But yes the SIG DJ and also the SIG PRO are that much better, Btw, I got the DJ for 550 € new on Ebay and the SIG PRO for 700 € used on Amazon. I always try to save some money by buying second hand. But it takes some patience.......
Tonight is SIG PRO time:
Supertramp remastered CD Brother Where You Bound some great bass lines on this album Ipod classic lod > Fiio E12 low gain Wow again and again

 

[pietcux]

   
Thanks for the compariosn - I really like that you compared them to the HD650. Makes me want the Sig Pro

 
I will probably keep both Signatures as voices seem to be a little better on the SIG PRO like Rick Davies from Supertramp right now....

 

[Hairspray]

I do not want to discredit the PRO 2900. But yes the SIG DJ and also the SIG PRO are that much better, Btw, I got the DJ for 550 € new on Ebay and the SIG PRO for 700 € used on Amazon. I always try to save some money by buying second hand. But it takes some patience.......
Tonight is SIG PRO time:
Supertramp remastered CD Brother Where You Bound some great bass lines on this album Ipod classic lod > Fiio E12 low gain Wow again and again

Thank u very much for all your precious infos, really.

I will take my time: the pro 2900, the highly neutral hd 600 or maybe sony mdr-ma500? the über-expensive Signature won't make it (800 euros is definitely too much imo).

Anyway, i want an open hp with GREAT bass (clean, textured, impactfull, with a visceral rumble, fun, pacefull, that wows me). A step ahead of the already excellent Superlux HD681 that i own and love.

Btw, i was talking about the Senn 600 (not the 650), which is supposed to be less (or not) veiled, more neutral, natural, and detailed.
HD 650 is exactly what i don't want (i sold my Fidelio X1 after one week and couldn't believe how much i hated its "Dark Vader" signature). For a lot of people HD 600 is still the best Senn after the 800 and that is really intriguing/appealing. Who doesn't want a classic timeless flagship in his quiver? only question is: does the 600's bass hit hard... i bet not since it is known for its hardcore neutrality.

But wait... do i really need i new HP? and why? Mmmhhh.. guess i need a shot... Classic... )

PS: i saw supertramp in Basel in St-Jakob. i was a kid and cant remember if it was in 1983 or 84? Anyway, it was great (joe cocker did the opening and he was drunk, lol). at that time, supertramp was one of the most famous english band and was cherished by critics, which is not the case today. Their best albums were considered as classics albums, but for some reason aren't recognized as such anymore.

 

[pietcux]

   
haha..., is the 2900 that bad compared to the DJ?
now that the 2900 is 389 euros, would you say it is overpriced?

 
Hi what about this offer from the UK:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/681637/fs-ft-lnib-ultrasone-signature-dj-price-drop-again

 

[pietcux]

PS: i saw supertramp in Basel in St-Jakob. i was a kid and cant remember if it was in 1983 or 84? Anyway, it was great (joe cocker did the opening and he was drunk, lol). at that time, supertramp was one of the most famous english band and was cherished by critics, which is not the case today. Their best albums were considered as classics albums, but for some reason aren't recognized as such anymore.

That times where my glory days. Had them on vinyl and had a decent stereo rig. I dig them since their records where released. I also like Pink Floyd a lot, but none of the Floyds has a really good voice for live appearance, and Supertramp had two very good voices... But I never saw the live on stage.

 

[Hairspray]

   
Hi what about this offer from the UK:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/681637/fs-ft-lnib-ultrasone-signature-dj-price-drop-again

 
thanks for the link, that's still 650.00 euros though (or $ 870 or 825 swiss francs).
Still above my financial pain limit... 

 

[pietcux]

You might want to check again, it is 450 pounds as per today.

 

[SHNNYL]

   
I do not want to discredit the PRO 2900. But yes the SIG DJ and also the SIG PRO are that much better, Btw, I got the DJ for 550 € new on Ebay and the SIG PRO for 700 € used on Amazon. I always try to save some money by buying second hand. But it takes some patience.......
Tonight is SIG PRO time:
Supertramp remastered CD Brother Where You Bound some great bass lines on this album Ipod classic lod > Fiio E12 low gain Wow again and again

How much do you think Sig Pro can be better than Pro900/2900? I use my Pro900 (now Pro2900) to make beats but considering upgrading to Sig pro and flip out my Pro900/2900 twin-cans.
 
Always enjoys the sound sonic of Pro900/2900 but transparency and detail are my priority.
 
Thanks!

 

[pietcux]

All I can say from memory is that I liked the Signature Pro better than the PRO 2900 / 900 in every aspect. It is like Ultrasone did everything right with this can. And for the ones who require more high quality bass volume they introduced the Signature DJ a few month later.

1. Sig Pro = perfectly neutral balanced
2. Sig Dj = perfectly basshead balanced without scarifying the rest of the spectrum

 
Both have slightly rolled off treble for endless no fatiguing listening sessions, for professionals or for HeadFiers.......

 

[Hairspray]

  All I can say from memory is that I liked the Signature Pro better than the PRO 2900 / 900 in every aspect.

 
In EVERY aspect?
It makes sense for the closed 900 but, since the 2900 is open, doesn't it at least have a larger soundstage, with better separation and more air than the two Signatures?