[Rasmutte]

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USB is not bad in istself. It's a lot more system dependant than, for example, coaxial. From experience, coaxial always sounds good/better. Not so with USB.
Re the v200 please note this: USB 1.1 Input (48 kHz / 16 Bit)

So USB is bad? :s
Or? I don't get it, really. Teach me! Or something.
 
 
"Re the v200 please note this: USB 1.1 Input (48 kHz / 16 Bit)"
What does it mean?

 

[xaval]

Please check my edit. Can get v200 upgraded with 24/96 USB input.
 
I never tested this product and really would like to know how much of the v800 it's in there
 
USB usually requiers some kind of digital interface to clean up things signal side and /or allow fully fledged 24/192 rez. This means more money into the rig where just buying a new soundcard with coax output would be cleaner. Of course, for Mac based rigs this is not quite an option... If your music files are Red Book only the resolution is a non issue with v200 stock
 
There is no bad or good with USB... just decisions and paths to follow. Coaxial seems to me the simplest, most effective and inexpensive solution to sending audio to a DAC. All DACs are not made thesame though and hence so much discussion around these matters, some reclock just nice with the interface others not so quite much. Personally, I've seen measured differencies with, namely jitter, but I cannot hear those differences.
 
About these Edition 8s, they seem to ring all the right bells here: easy to drive, closed, portable. I'm a bit like Skylab has already posted. It's just that I thought I was over spending big money on gear after all these years :\

 

[dallan]

V200 is an amp not a dac although u can get it with a cheap dac included.
Soundcards don't compare to a dac and the v800 is a pretty high level dac.
Quick to the point due to cell tapping.
cellphone post

 

[grokit]

If you aren't driving a more demanding headphone as well, I would think that you could easily get away with a V100 for the Edition 8 as it's a pretty efficient headphone. Has anyone tried that combo?

 

[oqvist]

I don´t find the ED 8 particularly easy to drive. Easy to get volume yes but I wonder if not the marketing helps get the notion that it´s easy to drive well?

 

[dallan]

Just because it is easy to drive and can be driven even by my Headamp Pico, that doesn't mean it doesn't sound immensely better on the v200.   The same can be said for the v100 to the v200 which is a totally different design from what i understand.  So it all depends on the level you are trying to get to.

 

[Rasmutte]

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Please check my edit. Can get v200 upgraded with 24/96 USB input.
 
I never tested this product and really would like to know how much of the v800 it's in there
 
USB usually requiers some kind of digital interface to clean up things signal side and /or allow fully fledged 24/192 rez. This means more money into the rig where just buying a new soundcard with coax output would be cleaner. Of course, for Mac based rigs this is not quite an option... If your music files are Red Book only the resolution is a non issue with v200 stock
 
There is no bad or good with USB... just decisions and paths to follow. Coaxial seems to me the simplest, most effective and inexpensive solution to sending audio to a DAC. All DACs are not made thesame though and hence so much discussion around these matters, some reclock just nice with the interface others not so quite much. Personally, I've seen measured differencies with, namely jitter, but I cannot hear those differences.
 
About these Edition 8s, they seem to ring all the right bells here: easy to drive, closed, portable. I'm a bit like Skylab has already posted. It's just that I thought I was over spending big money on gear after all these years :\

Hm, okay. I'm a Macbook Pro user, so I guess that I'll have to go with a DAC?
Though, I don't know another way to get sound out from the computer. I don't own any psychical CD's or something. I have everything digital in the computer, so I need a computer rig. Maybe someone here can help me with that?
 
I guess that the best way is to go with a DAC and an amp, or am I wrong?
 
( and sorry for my english at the moment. I'm kinda tired...)
 
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V200 is an amp not a dac although u can get it with a cheap dac included.
Soundcards don't compare to a dac and the v800 is a pretty high level dac.
Quick to the point due to cell tapping.
cellphone post

I already got a Nuforce udac 2. Is that enough?
 
 
And thanks to all of you, guys. I really appreciate your help! 
 

 

[grokit]

 

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Just because it is easy to drive and can be driven even by my Headamp Pico, that doesn't mean it doesn't sound immensely better on the v200.   The same can be said for the v100 to the v200 which is a totally different design from what i understand.  So it all depends on the level you are trying to get to.

 
Yeah I don't know, that's why I asked. A bit of research reveals that the price and power differences between the v100 and v200 are actually pretty minimal. But Violectric's summarized description is tellingly different:
 
v100: "2-channel headphone amplifier of highest quality. Transistorized amplifier."
 
v200: "2-channel headphone amplifier of ultimate quality. Sophisticated transistorized amp."

 

[xaval]

Hope this helps
Sorry for the ot btw...
 

Technical Data

Unbalanced Inputs​	2	2	2
Balanced Inputs​	0	(2)	(2)
Impedance​	10 kOhms	10 kOhms	10 kOhms
Unbalanced Outputs​	2	(2)	(2)
Balanced Outputs​	0	0	0
Number of Channels​	2	2	2
Nominal Input Level​	+6 dBu	+6 dBu	+6 dBu
Amplifier Gain​	8 dB	8 dB	8 dB
... with Pre-Gain​	-4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB	-4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB	-4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB
​
Frequency Range (-0,5 dB)​	5 Hz 60 kHz	5 Hz 60 kHz	5 Hz 60 kHz
​
Damping Factor (in 50 Ohm Load)​	300	400	800
Dynamic Range (A-wtd)​	126 dB	128 dB	128 dB
​
Noise (A-wtd)​	-102 dB	-100 dB	-100 dB
THD+N @ 10V / 100 Ohms (1W)​	-108 dB	-109 dB	-110 dB
THD+N @ 4V / 32 Ohms (0,5W)​	-102 dB	-103 dB	-103 dB
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz​	-110 dB	-115 dB	-110 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz​	-90 dB	-95 dB	-95 dB
​
Max Output Voltage in 600 Ohms​	20,9 V	19,6 V	18,5 V
Max Output Power in 600 Ohms​	730 mW	640 mW	570 mW
​
Max Output Voltage in 100 Ohms​	15,2 V	14,5 V	14,8 V
Max Output Power in 100 Ohms​	2300 mW	2100 mW	2200 mW
​
Max Output Voltage in 50 Ohms​	9,4 V	10,5 V	11,6 V
Max Output Power in 50 Ohms​	1780 mW	2200 mW	2700 mW
​
Max Output Voltage in 32 Ohms​	6,4 V	7,4 V	8,0 V
Max Output Power in 32 Ohms​	1300 mW	1700 mW	1700 mW
​
Max Output Voltage in 16 Ohms​	3,0 V	3,5 V	4 V
Max Output Power in 16 Ohms​	550 mW	780 mW	1000 mW
​
Number of Outputs​	2	2	2
​
Power Supply​	230 / 115 V	230 / 115 V	230 / 115 V
Power Consumption​	7 VA	10 VA	10 VA
​
Dimensions (WxHxD) mm​	170x49x126	170x49x225	170x49x225

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[justanut]

You guys are seriously going OT...
 
Anyway, I realised that I've been spoiled by the Ed8... TOTALLY can't make myself listen to the rest of my headphones... And the best part? I can let my WIFE hear the difference (and she does!!! Finally!!!). Something that you won't be able to do with that $1000 custom IEM~

 

[dallan]

U let ur wife know about them? Wow, cool wife.

cellphone post

 

[MacedonianHero]

U let ur wife know about them? Wow, cool wife.

cellphone post

LMAO...best post of the day.

 

[justanut]

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U let ur wife know about them? Wow, cool wife.

cellphone post

Lol... difficult not to... I'm banned from upgrading the rest of my gadgets for the rest of the year
 
She now uses my Ed8 as portable mirrors when we go out >..<
 

 

[Rasmutte]

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You guys are seriously going OT...

Is amping for the ED8 off-topic? 

 

[Lorspeaker]

u can "amp" it with a sansa clip +....and some lossless music...try it. 
i fell off my chair this morning doing that.