TRINITY - PHANTOM Series - New thread + WORLDS FIRST PUSH PULL HYBRID IEM!*

May 15, 2017 at 1:49 PM Post #16,653 of 24,683
Wow saddened and shocked by the latest announcement in light of the fact so many folks have pledged their funds for the TOTL offering and before most have even received something they have announced a new TOTL item with a completely different direction. Not sure what to think but feel for those in that situation. Tough lesson to learn for everyone involved.
 
May 15, 2017 at 1:53 PM Post #16,654 of 24,683
Wow saddened and shocked by the latest announcement in light of the fact so many folks have pledged their funds for the TOTL offering and before most have even received something they have announced a new TOTL item with a completely different direction. Not sure what to think but feel for those in that situation. Tough lesson to learn for everyone involved.
Yeah I'm kinda wishing Trinity gave crossover a try before blowing it off. I guess they got curious and then tested and implemented it into the Icarus IV.
 
May 15, 2017 at 1:59 PM Post #16,655 of 24,683
Your post makes me so angry, because I know you're right. Hope they prove me wrong, but the past few releases really point in this direction.

Maybe they're just attempting a different approach in order to provide different soundstages in their product lines..? Trying to stay positive here. :\
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:11 PM Post #16,657 of 24,683
I have supported trinity all through this thread and have been quite happy to wait for my Hunter to be finished and shipped to me ( please this is my opinion and also this has been debated to death ).
I am just curious why ( this is not accusation because if someone can enlighten me i will gladly accept it) , that trinity have announced release and pre order of another £300 iem with from the posts crossovers.
My question is how in the brief description on there website this iem suddenly becomes the top of the range and not the hunter???? Because of a crossover?????
Like i said this is not accusation and if someone is more in the know then please explain.
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:40 PM Post #16,659 of 24,683
Was the Icarus line a collaboration with another company?
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:44 PM Post #16,660 of 24,683
The only reason I can think of is that they need to raise more money now to cover the production costs of the current orders. I've got two of their less expensive items on order (Atlas-Delta and Icarus III) plus the Icarus I. I still remain hopeful that they can get on top of their orders, but I can certainly see major frustration from those who ordered a top of the line iem which has yet to ship with the announcement of preorders for yet another high end iem.
I keep following this thread mainly for news and updates about products shipping. Maybe soon? Next week?
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:47 PM Post #16,661 of 24,683
I have supported trinity all through this thread and have been quite happy to wait for my Hunter to be finished and shipped to me ( please this is my opinion and also this has been debated to death ).
I am just curious why ( this is not accusation because if someone can enlighten me i will gladly accept it) , that trinity have announced release and pre order of another £300 iem with from the posts crossovers.
My question is how in the brief description on there website this iem suddenly becomes the top of the range and not the hunter???? Because of a crossover?????
Like i said this is not accusation and if someone is more in the know then please explain.

As far as I can tell, it's not top of the range at all and isn't being claimed to be.
It has a dual coil dynamic driver and a dual balanced armature. Plus the crossover.
In terms of drivers alone, that puts it somewhere in between the Master and the PM6.
The Icarus IV full price is listed presently at £299, and the PM6 at £400 (was £350).
So pricing also suggests this kind of position in the overall range.

Having said all that, whilst I don't necesarily suspect any deliberate foul play, it's only natural that a craftsman continues to improve at his craft.
Experimentation, new ideas, reconsidering previously rejected ideas (JH Audio releasing a largely very well-reviewed hybrid IEM after previously saying they'd never make one) etc.
People and processes evolve. I don't doubt that at the time of development, Hunter (and PM6) were the pinnacle of what Trinity could produce.
But I think the process of developing the Master in response to feedback concerning the PM4, along with the collaboration with Sagaris and the ideas and new directions explored through that, have inevitably led to an evolution in the technology, methodology and audio quality/range that Trinity can produce.

It may well be that the Hunter is still very much the top of the tree.
I've heard a demo Hunter at CanJam, and had another one on loan for about a month now.
I've heard enough to know that it's something quite unique to me and pretty special.
So I wouldn't be surprised if it's still their TOTL. Not certain about the PM6, but hopeful.

However, I think it's highly likely that this year or early next year will see some kind of new IEM from Trinity that incorporates the best of what they've learned and developed thus far and blows all the others out of the water.

Anyway, that's my thoughts, for anyone who cares lol :D
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:49 PM Post #16,663 of 24,683
Here's a book title, Next Week, a Way of Life: a study in patience and speculation
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:52 PM Post #16,664 of 24,683
Perhaps my post was misread.
it was not aimed at trinity but to those posts that from what i read were implying that the hunter is now a had been lol
Nothing i read on trinity website leads me to believe the hunter are now a second best . I tend to agree with your post layman 1
 
May 15, 2017 at 2:54 PM Post #16,665 of 24,683
As far as I can tell, it's not top of the range at all and isn't being claimed to be.
It has a dual coil dynamic driver and a dual balanced armature. Plus the crossover.
In terms of drivers alone, that puts it somewhere in between the Master and the PM6.
The Icarus IV full price is listed presently at £299, and the PM6 at £400 (was £350).
So pricing also suggests this kind of position in the overall range.

Having said all that, whilst I don't necesarily suspect any deliberate foul play, it's only natural that a craftsman continues to improve at his craft.
Experimentation, new ideas, reconsidering previously rejected ideas (JH Audio releasing a largely very well-reviewed hybrid IEM after previously saying they'd never make one) etc.
People and processes evolve. I don't doubt that at the time of development, Hunter (and PM6) were the pinnacle of what Trinity could produce.
But I think the process of developing the Master in response to feedback concerning the PM4, along with the collaboration with Sagaris and the ideas and new directions explored through that, have inevitably led to an evolution in the technology, methodology and audio quality/range that Trinity can produce.

It may well be that the Hunter is still very much the top of the tree.
I've heard a demo Hunter at CanJam, and had another one on loan for about a month now.
I've heard enough to know that it's something quite unique to me and pretty special.
So I wouldn't be surprised if it's still their TOTL. Not certain about the PM6, but hopeful.

However, I think it's highly likely that this year or early next year will see some kind of new IEM from Trinity that incorporates the best of what they've learned and developed thus far and blows all the others out of the water.

Anyway, that's my thoughts, for anyone who cares lol :D

l know what you mean but specs and number of drivers are meaningless really. l don't know if the prices suggests this new model to be TOTL but they sure they to claim it's the latest and greatest.
 

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