Thoughts on a bunch of DACs (and why delta-sigma kinda sucks, just to get you to think about stuff)

Apr 28, 2015 at 9:23 PM Post #4,684 of 6,500
 
Yeah even in Alberta, the cost would be:
$2299 US = $2770 CAD+ 9.99 GST processing fee at the border + 138.50 GST = $2918.49 CAD total



yeah, that's pricey for the canucks.

it's been a while since the US dollar's been this strong so for us, it's nice to be able to pick up foreign goods at a "discounted" price. stax gear is as cheap as it's been in a long time...
 
Apr 28, 2015 at 10:57 PM Post #4,685 of 6,500
FYI, my Audio-GD DAC-19 (10th Anniversary Edition) arrived today.  It's a SE DAC with 2x PCM1704 chips.  This is one of the last brand new Burr-Brown R2R DAC's on the market and it comes in at just over $800 after shipping.  This new version has the same filters as the Master 7, their flagship DAC with 8x 1704 chips (also one of the top units on Purrin's list).
 
Some advantages over vintage R2R DACS:  It's brand new, it's fully supported/warrantied, it has a USB input (no additional transport needed), it will actually play up to 32bit/192k files over USB, oh and the USB input is modular/upgradable.
 
I have it hooked up to my amp through the Schiit SYS (along with the Theta) so I can A/B with the Theta by pushing one button.  I synch up my two players and I can easily just swap back and forth.
 
So, it's only been on for about 5 hours and I've only listened for about 2, but already I can say that it is very comparable to my Basic II in SE mode.  I think the DAC-19's bass is a bit bloomier (but not in a muddy way, just a bit more quantity) and it's a bit more mid-forward.  They're very close at first glance and I'm going to need a lot more time to really tease out the subtle differences.
 
And of course what that means to me is that the DAC-19 makes a fantastic alternative to a vintage R2R for those who want R2R without all the compromises inherent in a 20 year old unit.  For the price (almost 1/3 of the Yggy), I'd say it's worth looking into for those like me who like the idea of the Yggy but can't swing the price.
 
I'll be posting more impressions over in the DAC-19 thread if anyone is interested.  Just thought you folks might find it interesting.
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 12:08 AM Post #4,686 of 6,500
Wow! Thanks Stillhart. Seems like the DAC-19 is a viable alternative for the vintage R2R's that are getting harder and harder to find.
 
Should my Theta ever kick the dust I know I will be either buying the Yggy or DAC-19. 
 
On a side note I just listened to The Smiths - Suffer little Children from the album The Smiths. I was blown away again.. the laughing girl voice at 3:59 freaked me out because I wasn't sure where it was coming from.. I thought it was a pop-up video commercial on my browser.
 

 
Listen in FLAC, this is just for reference..
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM Post #4,687 of 6,500
FYI, my Audio-GD DAC-19 (10th Anniversary Edition) arrived today.  It's a SE DAC with 2x PCM1704 chips.  This is one of the last brand new Burr-Brown R2R DAC's on the market and it comes in at just over $800 after shipping.  This new version has the same filters as the Master 7, their flagship DAC with 8x 1704 chips (also one of the top units on Purrin's list).

Some advantages over vintage R2R DACS:  It's brand new, it's fully supported/warrantied, it has a USB input (no additional transport needed), it will actually play up to 32bit/192k files over USB, oh and the USB input is modular/upgradable.

I have it hooked up to my amp through the Schiit SYS (along with the Theta) so I can A/B with the Theta by pushing one button.  I synch up my two players and I can easily just swap back and forth.

So, it's only been on for about 5 hours and I've only listened for about 2, but already I can say that it is very comparable to my Basic II in SE mode.  I think the DAC-19's bass is a bit bloomier (but not in a muddy way, just a bit more quantity) and it's a bit more mid-forward.  They're very close at first glance and I'm going to need a lot more time to really tease out the subtle differences.

And of course what that means to me is that the DAC-19 makes a fantastic alternative to a vintage R2R for those who want R2R without all the compromises inherent in a 20 year old unit.  For the price (almost 1/3 of the Yggy), I'd say it's worth looking into for those like me who like the idea of the Yggy but can't swing the price.

I'll be posting more impressions over in the DAC-19 thread if anyone is interested.  Just thought you folks might find it interesting.


Cool.. plus one doesn't need to switch on the DAC 247
and also no need to buy Vintage that has questionable QC due to age.
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 3:24 AM Post #4,688 of 6,500
FYI, my Audio-GD DAC-19 (10th Anniversary Edition) arrived today.  It's a SE DAC with 2x PCM1704 chips.  This is one of the last brand new Burr-Brown R2R DAC's on the market and it comes in at just over $800 after shipping.  This new version has the same filters as the Master 7, their flagship DAC with 8x 1704 chips (also one of the top units on Purrin's list).

Some advantages over vintage R2R DACS:  It's brand new, it's fully supported/warrantied, it has a USB input (no additional transport needed), it will actually play up to 32bit/192k files over USB, oh and the USB input is modular/upgradable.

I have it hooked up to my amp through the Schiit SYS (along with the Theta) so I can A/B with the Theta by pushing one button.  I synch up my two players and I can easily just swap back and forth.

So, it's only been on for about 5 hours and I've only listened for about 2, but already I can say that it is very comparable to my Basic II in SE mode.  I think the DAC-19's bass is a bit bloomier (but not in a muddy way, just a bit more quantity) and it's a bit more mid-forward.  They're very close at first glance and I'm going to need a lot more time to really tease out the subtle differences.

And of course what that means to me is that the DAC-19 makes a fantastic alternative to a vintage R2R for those who want R2R without all the compromises inherent in a 20 year old unit.  For the price (almost 1/3 of the Yggy), I'd say it's worth looking into for those like me who like the idea of the Yggy but can't swing the price.

I'll be posting more impressions over in the DAC-19 thread if anyone is interested.  Just thought you folks might find it interesting.


Is it too much to ask, DAC-19 vs NFB-28? :smiley:
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 7:53 AM Post #4,692 of 6,500
Every Audio GD product I have ever owned, including the old DAC19, has benefited from being left on 24/7. Even the hot running amps.

Really? Nice. I thought I noticed some improvement on my NFB-1 since leaving it on all the time but could be placebo.
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 8:50 AM Post #4,693 of 6,500
Mhdt labs have a few R2R DACs including one (Pagoda) that uses PCM1704. Any opinions?
 
Apr 29, 2015 at 10:32 AM Post #4,695 of 6,500
I read that thread too and it is a bit disappointing that there is less to no activity recently.
 

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