thebit Opus#1S DAP impressions
Feb 15, 2018 at 3:47 PM Post #151 of 945
Thanks for the review.

My purple Opus #1S has landed today.
Customs inflated the price by a whooping 103€, but I got a VERY price initially, so it's still very reasonable in the end.
Singapore version came with the leather case.

Coming week-end will be a feast, Opus #1S versus little brother Opus #1 and big bad LG V20 !
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 10:18 AM Post #152 of 945
Nice review, twister6. It looks like in the mid-tier DAP price range of around $400, the N5ii & the Opus #1s are the best in SQ. I'm looking to upgrade from a Fiio X3ii. I don't care about streaming, wi-fi, bluetooth, or apps. I just want a dedicated player. Is it a big jump in SQ to go from an X3ii to either an N5ii or Opus #1s? - Are there any other options I should consider?
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 11:33 AM Post #153 of 945
Nice review, twister6. It looks like in the mid-tier DAP price range of around $400, the N5ii & the Opus #1s are the best in SQ. I'm looking to upgrade from a Fiio X3ii. I don't care about streaming, wi-fi, bluetooth, or apps. I just want a dedicated player. Is it a big jump in SQ to go from an X3ii to either an N5ii or Opus #1s? - Are there any other options I should consider?

Shanling M3S
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 11:43 AM Post #154 of 945
Nice review, twister6. It looks like in the mid-tier DAP price range of around $400, the N5ii & the Opus #1s are the best in SQ. I'm looking to upgrade from a Fiio X3ii. I don't care about streaming, wi-fi, bluetooth, or apps. I just want a dedicated player. Is it a big jump in SQ to go from an X3ii to either an N5ii or Opus #1s? - Are there any other options I should consider?

I would second a look at the Shanling M3s. I have both and will add a comparison in my review. My computer decided to "take a few days off," so I am now behind. I do like the #1S, but lean towards the M3s...I like the added versatility of the Shanling, and the more portable aspect. The #1S is REALLY nice, but I prefer the M3s; especially since my now go to is the Opus#2...

Both are very good but to me, the savings of cost, rate the Shanling a bit above the #1S...
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM Post #155 of 945
I would second a look at the Shanling M3s. I have both and will add a comparison in my review. My computer decided to "take a few days off," so I am now behind. I do like the #1S, but lean towards the M3s...I like the added versatility of the Shanling, and the more portable aspect. The #1S is REALLY nice, but I prefer the M3s; especially since my now go to is the Opus#2...

Both are very good but to me, the savings of cost, rate the Shanling a bit above the #1S...

How about headphone output? - Which gives more juice between the 3 (N5ii/1S/M3)? - I would like to use this player with my 6xx's. I can use my X3ii with them, but more drivability would be nice. I like fast transient attack, separation and punch. I listen to alot of metal (NWBHM/power/symphonic/etc.), slick pop, and trance type stuff. - One thing that kinda turns me off on the M3, is that it doesn't have a dedicated line out. I don't know if that matters much on this particular unit. EDIT: Don't know if the unbalanced out can be set to line out. Since I'd mainly use this around the house, I'd like more power over the consideration of form factor.
 
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Feb 19, 2018 at 12:26 PM Post #156 of 945
How about headphone output? - Which gives more juice between the 3 (N5ii/1S/M3)? - I would like to use this player with my 6xx's. I can use my X3ii with them, but more drivability would be nice. I like fast transient attack, separation and punch. I listen to alot of metal (NWBHM/power/symphonic/etc.), slick pop, and trance type stuff. - One thing that kinda turns me off on the M3, is that it doesn't have a dedicated line out. I don't know if that matters much on this particular unit. EDIT: Don't know if the unbalanced out can be set to line out. Since I'd mainly use this around the house, I'd like more power over the consideration of form factor.

Aaahhh. I will have to try that later, I have Pinky's HD600's, on hand and will report back later tonight. My initial thought is that the M3s is easier to drive headphones, but will put in a dedicated session, later.
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 12:35 PM Post #157 of 945
Aaahhh. I will have to try that later, I have Pinky's HD600's, on hand and will report back later tonight. My initial thought is that the M3s is easier to drive headphones, but will put in a dedicated session, later.

Thanks. Please do advise...
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 3:09 PM Post #158 of 945
I am not at home but...both of the units will drive the HD650. They are very close in their ability to drive the HD6XX.
 
Feb 19, 2018 at 3:39 PM Post #159 of 945
3 days of head-to-head testing of Opus #1 versus Opus #1S versus LG V20 and here come the results:

Opus #1S is still very much an Opus #1 (identical form factor, identical UI beside the automatic balanced input detection on #1S).
Output is 5-10% better on Opus #1S depending on the headphones. Not night and day, but it may help with 64+ ohm headphones.

Soundwise, this is a bit surprising: Opus #1 and Opus #1S share extremely similar bass (tight, good slam) and treble (extended but a bit too dry to my taste).
To me, the only thing that actually changed are the mids:

Opus #1 mids are neither forward or backwards, but rather clear and well separated, which increases soundstage depth and makes Opus #1 and #2 very spacious sounding (both in width and depth). This helps many headphones with limited soundstage shine (a true delight with Kennerton Valis).

Opus #1S mids are a big departure in my opinion, they sound closer, more intimate (obvious with male vocals and lower guitar register). While this gives a more dynamic/lively sound, this decreases soundstage depth a lot. While most people won't mind, to me it makes Opus #1S much less impressive in terms of soundstage overall, because this is a much more common signature (= soundstage wider than deep), that can be found in many DAPs nowadays.

In terms of pairing with my gear:

1) Rose Cappuccinos MK2 (with Nobunage SPC cable and Spiral Dot L tips): pairing with LG V20 was already better than with Opus #1 due to the smoother V20 treble countering the bright Cappuccino treble. With Opus #1S, the Capuccinos lost a lot of air in the mids, sounding more intimate, but the treble still sound very bright compared with V20.

2) Kennerton Valis (with CustomCans copper balanced cable): pairing with Opus #1 was epic, because the big Opus soudnstage helped getting a good separation on the Valis and the bass of Opus #1 helped the moderate Vali bass getting some thump. With Opus #1S, Valis sound smaller, more intimate, not really my cup of tea.

-A&K T8iE (with iBasso CB2 mixed copper/silver balanced cable and Spiral Dot L tips): good pairing with Opus #1 despite the mid-bass hump, smooth A&K treble counter the bright Opus treble well for a natural result. With Opus #1S, things gets much livelier if you appreciate the mid-bass hump extending slightly into the mids (fortunately Opus #1 bass is tight and fast so things don't get too messy). Fun signature with Opus #1, small club sound.

-Fidue Sirius (with stock balanced cable and Spiral Dot L tips): pairing with Opus #1 was good but not great, because big soundstage plus big soundstage = huge soundstage, which made listening less dynamic and flatter (some people may really like this, I don't). With Opus #1S, no such thing, mids suddenly are ALIVE with the Sirius, guitar slams, bass slams hard and vocals finally gets close. Very enjoyable experience, the only pairing that I truely appreciate more with Opus #1S !

Conclusion: to me, Opus #1S is not an upgrade, it's really a sidegrade for people that find Opus #1 mids a bit thin (= well separated and airy). Opus #1S mids are more intimate, which which makes the overall signature livelier, at the expense of soundstage depth. I wish they could have smoothed the treble a bit (changing the digital filter of the dac could help).
 
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Feb 19, 2018 at 5:52 PM Post #161 of 945
And what difference between Opus 1s and Opus 2? Does the Opus 2 sound more dinamic, natural, large soundstage etc?
Don't have Opus #2 right now, I had it on loan for a while 6 months ago, and it sounded very close to Opus #1, with a bit more details in the mids, but not enough at the time for me to pay 4 times the price of Opus #1 (price in EU: 1500€ at best). So no, Opus #1S is more dynamic if I remember correctly, while soundstage is on Opus #2 side.
Still looking for an Opus #2 at a lower price since then, but people are very greedy in the classified: 900€ for a scratched unit, more than 1000€ for a good unit. Rarity I guess...
 
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Feb 20, 2018 at 12:57 PM Post #162 of 945
I would second a look at the Shanling M3s. I have both and will add a comparison in my review. My computer decided to "take a few days off," so I am now behind. I do like the #1S, but lean towards the M3s...I like the added versatility of the Shanling, and the more portable aspect. The #1S is REALLY nice, but I prefer the M3s; especially since my now go to is the Opus#2...

Both are very good but to me, the savings of cost, rate the Shanling a bit above the #1S...

I am not at home but...both of the units will drive the HD650. They are very close in their ability to drive the HD6XX.

How do the M3s & #1S compare, sonically?
 
Feb 20, 2018 at 4:27 PM Post #163 of 945
How do the M3s & #1S compare, sonically?

To MY ears, the Shanling sounds a bit warmer, richer and having a more full sound. That said, the detail representation of the Opus, is well...typical Opus. The #2 has replaced my Shanling M5 as my reference point for that reason. The amount of detail on the #1s is impressive, and helps provide a fairly fun sounding DAP. It is still a bit thin for my tastes, though. The #2, fills that thinner sound quite nicely, though.

As for the HD6xx (HD600 for me), the Shanling provided a better sound. It was easier to drive the 600's through the M3s, than the #1S. I found on the Opus, I had to raise the volume by about 20 numbers (70 to 90), to get any sort of decent sound. Even then, it had a more thin sound than the warm, rich sound from the M3s. The M3s had no problem what-so-ever driving the HD600's. I did have to raise the volume about 10 (from 30 to 40ish...) to provide an equivalent sound volume-wise. This was in no way doing any volume matching between the two DAP's, this was only going from how I typically run any of my IEM's/cans on each DAP. Take that as you will, but I do believe this is valid, since I had to raise the volume on both in order to drive the 600's adequately, and to what I would call a volume equivalent to my normal listening.

Hope this helps.
 
Feb 20, 2018 at 4:29 PM Post #164 of 945
And what difference between Opus 1s and Opus 2? Does the Opus 2 sound more dinamic, natural, large soundstage etc?

Yes, all of the above, to me. Sound stage is close, but still wider on the #2. Just a fabulous sound.
 
Feb 20, 2018 at 4:47 PM Post #165 of 945
To MY ears, the Shanling sounds a bit warmer, richer and having a more full sound. That said, the detail representation of the Opus, is well...typical Opus. The #2 has replaced my Shanling M5 as my reference point for that reason. The amount of detail on the #1s is impressive, and helps provide a fairly fun sounding DAP. It is still a bit thin for my tastes, though. The #2, fills that thinner sound quite nicely, though.

As for the HD6xx (HD600 for me), the Shanling provided a better sound. It was easier to drive the 600's through the M3s, than the #1S. I found on the Opus, I had to raise the volume by about 20 numbers (70 to 90), to get any sort of decent sound. Even then, it had a more thin sound than the warm, rich sound from the M3s. The M3s had no problem what-so-ever driving the HD600's. I did have to raise the volume about 10 (from 30 to 40ish...) to provide an equivalent sound volume-wise. This was in no way doing any volume matching between the two DAP's, this was only going from how I typically run any of my IEM's/cans on each DAP. Take that as you will, but I do believe this is valid, since I had to raise the volume on both in order to drive the 600's adequately, and to what I would call a volume equivalent to my normal listening.

Hope this helps.

Perfect. Thanks!
 

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