sound wise he is better sounding with better bass and bigger soundstage and imaging even compared to the A18
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And do you using this same time?
@SnooDucksAudio You never know if you have orhinal one or not. Please change at least Muses see if hear diffrence
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But of course
@fabien32
Maybe I'm wrong I see that thing first time. A have some audio engineering knowledge and skills. Maybe someone give some supervision about my opinion.
So much preamplificarion stages distort sound like guitar head amplifier. You hear very compressed sound right now. Every stage of equipment assume distortion not only give sound signature. In 90% DAC + AMP give best results in other 10% DAC nicely cooperate with pre amplifier and after that end amplifier.
Maybe I'm wrong I see that thing first time. A have some audio engineering knowledge and skills. Maybe someone give some supervision about my opinion.
So much preamplificarion stages distort sound like guitar head amplifier. You hear very compressed sound right now. Every stage of equipment assume distortion not only give sound signature. In 90% DAC + AMP give best results in other 10% DAC nicely cooperate with pre amplifier and after that end amplifier.
slavalun
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1. AD8620AR and MUSES02 used for DSD4499 are original !!!
2. AK4499 - too complex DAC to be fully used in portable devices. Using it portable is just marketing!
3. DSD4499, like any other player on this DAC, has a number of limitations and simplifications, invented by Zishan engineers at their discretion.
4. However, in spite of the simplifications, by making the player revision
(which I posted with a photo earlier),
you can get results that are superior to those of devices at a price of $ 2000 or more ...
from $ 50 to $ 150 ... And this is quite a small amount of money for a device of this level!
The same applies to other Zishan DSDs.
5. It is very difficult to build a DAC and the entire analog path together with an amplifier in one player with one battery. therefore
the result with the connection of an external amplifier gives better technical results in many cases.
However, such a solution is not always convenient, so in my author's works I make a system with an amplifier inside that does not require an external amplifier anymore. As a result, on the Zishan DSD platform, you can get the most compact portable solution, which in terms of its characteristics and SOUND is not inferior even to stationary devices.
2. AK4499 - too complex DAC to be fully used in portable devices. Using it portable is just marketing!
3. DSD4499, like any other player on this DAC, has a number of limitations and simplifications, invented by Zishan engineers at their discretion.
4. However, in spite of the simplifications, by making the player revision
(which I posted with a photo earlier),
you can get results that are superior to those of devices at a price of $ 2000 or more ...
from $ 50 to $ 150 ... And this is quite a small amount of money for a device of this level!
The same applies to other Zishan DSDs.
5. It is very difficult to build a DAC and the entire analog path together with an amplifier in one player with one battery. therefore
the result with the connection of an external amplifier gives better technical results in many cases.
However, such a solution is not always convenient, so in my author's works I make a system with an amplifier inside that does not require an external amplifier anymore. As a result, on the Zishan DSD platform, you can get the most compact portable solution, which in terms of its characteristics and SOUND is not inferior even to stationary devices.
It's true that every cable and every device add some resistance, that's why I use purr sterling silver cables and top notch gear. Believe me or not when i tell you that, if done correctly that way is the the best sound you'll ever hear
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SnooDucksAudio
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It's REAL?
. But I'm not satisfied with sound. And all the other DAPs sound meh... Ugh.
slavalun
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Really!It's REAL?
But the AD8620AR and MUSES02 is also a marketing part that has nothing to do with sound!
By themselves, these microcircuits are just a small part of the circuit,
which can be configured in completely different ways.
SnooDucksAudio
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Doesn't it cost 90 EURO for 4X AD8620AR and 1X Muses02. And another 70 EURO for AK4499.
slavalun
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I don't know where they get these devices from, ask the manufacturer this question ...
But they are 100% original. I have experience in these matters.
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One indication that Chinese source AK DACs are genuine (beside sound) is that there is a shortage and high prices because of the AK factory fire.
SnooDucksAudio
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Yes, that is true with the Zishan and YinLuMei M400. But the I/V OpAmps, I'm not too sure. But if Slavalun says so, so be it. @slavalun have you tried out the YLM M400?
I don't know if the chips are fake or not, but one thing I know, it how they sound, and the dsds 4499 sounds better than any DAP I've heard. I didn't hear the A&S se200 so maybe it sounds better but i doubt that he does. The thing the zishan lack is Fonctionality and look
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SnooDucksAudio
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SE200 AK DAC is ok, better separation by a little bit. But the ESS DAC, horrible.
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I think Chinese opamps it's case by case.
He's not the first I read here saying the AD8620 in DSDs ak4499 are genuine.
Here some Chinese opamps I got:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-zishan-dsds-corner.826185/page-91#post-14683393
Manufactures have different sources than Aliexpress:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-opamp-thread.432749/page-466#post-15915389
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