[tisb0b]

How much longer? =P

 

[baka1969]

Hi guys,


I'm hoping to finish today or tomorrow. It's longish and I'm typing it on my BlackBerry.

 

[emremusic]

subscribed.....

 

[jp11801]

I've heard both and they are very good  but not top of the heap by a large margin. You can put all the part you want into a a beta or a Woo 6Se but you'll still get a second place finish

 

[bcg27]

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I've heard both and they are very good  but not top of the heap by a large margin. You can put all the part you want into a a beta or a Woo 6Se but you'll still get a second place finish

 
Out of curiosity, what do you consider 'top of the heap'?

 

[baka1969]

Quote:Originally Posted by jp11801 

"I've heard both and they are very good  but not top of the heap by a large margin. You can put all the part you want into a a beta or a Woo 6Se but you'll still get a second place finish"


I'm not sure that's the entire point. I'm comparing two different yet similar excellent amps. Neither one is hardly a failure. Please wait until I post my review before you make critiques. Thank you.

 

[c12mech]

The anticipation is killing me.....
 

 

[baka1969]

Quote:Originally Posted by c12mech 

"The anticipation is killing me....."


I'm working on it now and am about 2/3 done. It's kind of a novella. Lmao

 

[c12mech]

No rush.

 
I hope that you post the mods to the β22.  I've decided that's my next big amp and is why I'm very interested in what you have to say about it.

 

[baka1969]

Quote:Originally Posted by c12mech 

"No rush.
I hope that you post the mods to the β22.  I've decided that's my next big amp and is why I'm very interested in what you have to say about it."


I think this is most of it:

Service Performed
 
-Designed custom face plates from FPE, mounted new handles and chassis lids from Par-Metal, and spiked feet from PartsExpress.
-All new stainless steel fasteners and aluminum stand offs, including lock washers, for PCB mounts, IEC power entry, and Amphenol chassis mount connector; all other screw-type connectors, including on-board Phoenix and PS umbilical re-tightened.
 
B22
-New TKD pot, TRS jack, Cardas RCAs, and face plate LEDs.
-Installed e12 board and moved/remounted e22.
-Remounted all MOSFETs with lock washers.
-New input wiring from RCAs to board inputs; used existing wire from outputs of the boards to e22 and retagged with solder at the Molex pins; new wire from e22 to e12 and TRS jack. 
-Zobel network installed on e22.
-Replaced all electrolytics on the B22 boards.
-Replaced Q3+Q7
-Biased quiescent current on all 3 channels to 120-125mA, with lid on, at 68F ambient temp, and over a period of 6hrs.  DC offset set to 0.4-0.7mV on all 3 channels, and 0.5mV on e12.
 
o22
-Measured at 29V.
-Installed new Bulgin latching switch with appropriate higher rated/speced relay.
-Installed new AC mains wiring from IEC power entry to switch and relay. 

 

[jp11801]

Quote:Originally Posted by jp11801 

"I've heard both and they are very good  but not top of the heap by a large margin. You can put all the part you want into a a beta or a Woo 6Se but you'll still get a second place finish"


I'm not sure that's the entire point. I'm comparing two different yet similar excellent amps. Neither one is hardly a failure. Please wait until I post my review before you make critiques. Thank you.

You know what your right, looking forward to your comparison

 

[winzzz]

 
Out of curiosity, what do you consider 'top of the heap'?

im curious as well..

 

[chesebert]

Just my 2c, I think B52 belongs in the "top of the heap" category. I can think of atleast 2 others, but will not mention since I have no experience with either.
 
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Out of curiosity, what do you consider 'top of the heap'?

 
 

 

[brasewel]

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Out of curiosity, what do you consider 'top of the heap'?

im curious as well..

 

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I would think the B22(Balanced), B52, RWA Isabella(Balanced), WooAudio WA22, WA5, RSA Apache, Leben CX300, all Eddie Current Amps fall in the top of the heap category. 
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[chesebert]

It all depends on how you define "top of the heap"
 
Between Apache, b22 and B52, it's probably along the lines of Apache << b22 < B52. So I guess one can always define "top of the heap" to include all amps better than b22.
 
Is CX300 that good? guess i need to find a dealer and give it a listen one of these days.
 
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I would think the B22(Balanced), B52, RWA Isabella(Balanced), WooAudio WA22, WA5, RSA Apache, Leben CX300, all Eddie Current Amps fall in the top of the heap category. 
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