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May 28, 2025 at 2:42 AM Post #107,236 of 107,636
Hey guys! I'm new here and someone recommended me the watercooler thread for this. Best All-Rounder Setup under $3,000?

A little about me. I'm 21 right now, a student in Tokyo and studying music composition. I am looking for a one and done all-rounder for my library.

My Library for reference: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/softears-volume-s.27823/reviews#review-37944

The IEMs I'm really keen on at the moment are: Forte Ears Macbeth, Alpha Omega Omega & Thieaudio Valhalla [All Used]. I'd really like to demo them if possible but I'm not sure if that's possible in Tokyo except Valhalla. I'm open for other recommendations and opinions. I like a balanced-warm signature as I listen to recordings and study them for more than 6 hours on a daily basis, so something too energetic is not what's best for me.
Check Spectrumica and a used P6 Pro (if you can deal with no streaming and meh UI) or a SP3000(M) (T). Used those should be around your budget and give you a shortcut to a pocketable near summit setup with a warm signature.
 
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May 28, 2025 at 2:47 AM Post #107,237 of 107,636
I'll start endurance training my ears for the Valhalla. I really think when you wear IEMs for +8 hours daily comfort edges other things out.
Yeah, both are quite big IEMs for sure.

Vision Ears VE 10 is lighter, but the fit is a bit tricky (the same goes with the Phonix series), you might need to try it by yourself first to see whether your ear's anatomy fits with the shape.

Another option that works well with me is AME Raven - it sounds like a W-shaped VE Phonix but with better sub-bass and more extended treble that's still extremely smooth and balanced. Some people near my local audio store even think it's as technical as Anni23 while sporting a more relaxed, thicker type of tuning. Wondering why it doesn't get enough hype lol
 
May 28, 2025 at 3:11 AM Post #107,238 of 107,636
Check Spectrumica and a used P6 Pro (if you can deal with no streaming and meh UI) or a SP3000(M) (T). Used those should be around your budget and give you a shortcut to a pocketable near summit setup with a warm signature.
I have heard a lot about Ice Labs and never got that intrigued about them as there were others like Elysian Apostle or Softears Enigma that were more hyped and as for library. I have all my library as Vinyl or Cd Rips on a 512GB micro-SD, though they are mostly classical recordings so 16bit-44.1khz is most common. I have some new remasters by Klemperer and Solti in 24-192khz though and they are phenomenal.

Thanks for the recommendations, if I could get a chance to hear them I'll check them out for sure.
 
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May 28, 2025 at 3:16 AM Post #107,239 of 107,636
I have heard a lot about Ice Labs and never got that intrigued about them as there were others like Elysian Apostle or Softears Enigma that were more hyped and as for library. I have all my library as Vinyl or Cd Rips on a 512GB micro-SD, though they are mostly classical recordings so 16bit-44.1khz is most common. I have some new remasters by Klemperer and Solti in 24-192khz though and they are phenomenal.
There is not much marketing and its not a studio that invests into influencers, so yeah its not on the radar for many. Imho this IEM deserves far more attention. To my ear it strikes above its price tier, if it was a Unique Melody release it would be around 4.5-6k if not more. The technicalities are up there with the current 4k tier, the tuning is superb yet rather unorthodox giving you warmish easy to listen signature, yet its very clear with zero veil with sweet mids, very well executed airy treble and thunderous low end. One of the best BCD implementations I tried too. The build is above and beyond, definitly give it a closer look & listen if you get a chance.
 
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May 28, 2025 at 3:32 AM Post #107,240 of 107,636
I have heard a lot about Ice Labs and never got that intrigued about them as there were others like Elysian Apostle or Softears Enigma that were more hyped and as for library. I have all my library as Vinyl or Cd Rips on a 512GB micro-SD, though they are mostly classical recordings so 16bit-44.1khz is most common. I have some new remasters by Klemperer and Solti in 24-192khz though and they are phenomenal.

Thanks for the recommendations, if I could get a chance to hear them I'll check them out for sure.
How do you rip vinyls?
 
May 28, 2025 at 3:43 AM Post #107,241 of 107,636
How do you rip vinyls?
I don't do it myself as I'm not that deep into the hobby. I let my friend do it whose older and has a setup that if I remember correctly was ATR9 with something by Project-Jet with Amp and I guess TASCAM was there but not sure if it was used in chain or not. He has a vinyl collection and shares the rips with me and at times I buy records too and allow him to rip for the collection.
 
May 28, 2025 at 3:50 AM Post #107,242 of 107,636
I went there and they have a lot but that's why I said " except Valhalla". I am more keen on Macbeth and Omega. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Oh okay I forgot to check your library as well. I sometimes listen to classical and jazz too but not confident enough to give IEM suggestions. I'm pretty sure @bigbeans can help you with that genre 😉
 
May 28, 2025 at 3:54 AM Post #107,243 of 107,636
One of the surprises of this HighEnd edition, the last one to take place in Munich, was the Letshuoer stand. They had a lot of new stuff, like the all BA’s Mystic 8, the brand new Serenade

in a beautiful stabilised wood shell and the most striking of all a new prototype of a 2DD+4BA+4EST tribrid that has a funny story. When the Audiogeek community caught wind of the Lethsuoer's UK rep, Jon, high bass shelf EJ07M, everybody instantly wanted one. Jon worked his magic and there will be a special release ofbthis IEM. But this is where it gets better; while loosely based on their previous EJ07M, this new model adds a second DD and 2 more BA’s, raising the drivers count to 10.

The bass response is one of the standout features. It strikes the right balance between impact and control, offering a deep, resonant low end that with the proper amplification can just about make your teeth rattle. Sub-bass frequencies extend quite low, giving a nice rumble, perfect for genres such as electronic, hip-hop, and rap. More importantly, the bass is quite fast, keeping up with double bass drums in technical death metal and the likes. The mid-bass is textured and articulated, making it a good choice for all sorts of metal/rock related genres.
While the first demand of the Audiogeeks was bass, the second condition was mids that provide enough body and energy. Vocals, both male and female, are rendered with remarkable naturalness, without that powerful bass bleeding into the mids. The clarity is striking. The mids are neither recessed nor overly forward, striking a good balance. Distorted guitars have enough grit while acoustic ones sound smooth and natural.

The treble response is crisp and airy, with excellent detail retrieval. The 4 ESTs provide the typical slightly shimmery delivery, backed by enough body provided, most likely by the BA’s. I haven’t noticed any sibilance, even with the worst offenders, like the Seventh Son of the Seventh Son.
The soundstage is large, sort of ovoidal, and provides that ‘wall of sound’ I’m always looking for.
I was lucky enough to test it at home for a few days and I'm thoroughly impressed. The engineering unit was very responsive to tips and cable rolling, and I have all the reasons to believe that the end product will be the same. They are quite power hungry, benefiting greatly from an additional amplifier. I have tried them with Tsuranagi and I swear I could feel the bass pounding in my chest. As for cables, my favourite was Nightcraft Nocturne, a very neutral cable that enlarged the stage even further and brought some even more clarity without altering the sound signature.
The good news don’t stop here, they aim to provide the end product in titanium shells with a stabilised wood faceplate, so the best of two worlds. I am a big sucker for titanium shells so I ordered one on the spot and I can’t wait to get it.

So look out for this one, Letshuoer have already proven themselves before, with Cadenza 12, Cadenza 4 and many other sets. It's about time they get some recognition for they efforts.
+1 for Lady S :heart: (inoffical name)

Easily one of the best IEMs I have heard, threatening, and in some areas surpassing my beloved C12, especially with its ESTs that clearly make a difference.

The clarity, spaciousness and effortlesness it provides is simply stunning and i hated to let it go again 😿

Keep your eyes open for this release, this is going to be a BANGER!
 
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May 28, 2025 at 4:16 AM Post #107,244 of 107,636
Hey guys! I'm new here and someone recommended me the watercooler thread for this. Best All-Rounder Setup under $3,000?

A little about me. I'm 21 right now, a student in Tokyo and studying music composition. I am looking for a one and done all-rounder for my library.

My Library for reference: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/softears-volume-s.27823/reviews#review-37944

The IEMs I'm really keen on at the moment are: Forte Ears Macbeth, Alpha Omega Omega & Thieaudio Valhalla [All Used]. I'd really like to demo them if possible but I'm not sure if that's possible in Tokyo except Valhalla. I'm open for other recommendations and opinions. I like a balanced-warm signature as I listen to recordings and study them for more than 6 hours on a daily basis, so something too energetic is not what's best for me.
Ice Lab Spectrumica and FiiO M17. ✔️
 
May 28, 2025 at 4:56 AM Post #107,245 of 107,636
Ice Lab Spectrumica and FiiO M17. ✔️
I did look up some reviews and came to conclusion that it's one of the most detailed sets out there but with a unique tuning. Something definitely I'd love to try before buying. I don't know if I can demo it in Tokyo but if any such opportunity arises I'd do it without reservations. Thanks for the rec.
 
May 28, 2025 at 5:32 AM Post #107,246 of 107,636
I did look up some reviews and came to conclusion that it's one of the most detailed sets out there but with a unique tuning. Something definitely I'd love to try before buying. I don't know if I can demo it in Tokyo but if any such opportunity arises I'd do it without reservations. Thanks for the rec.
Maybe you can try a set how is work perfectly, cayin dap and unique melody iem.
Like N6III and Mest Jet black
 
May 28, 2025 at 5:34 AM Post #107,247 of 107,636
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May 28, 2025 at 5:42 AM Post #107,248 of 107,636
SJY Horizon Carbon Closed...the best open-sounding closed backs...get em before the price goes up. An incredible set of cans LOLOLOLOL...and youre welcome!
 
May 28, 2025 at 7:20 AM Post #107,250 of 107,636
Interesting ,..

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The measurements do not reflect the sound that i hear, especially for the Hex and Omnium Ti bass.
 

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