The Watercooler -- Impressions, philosophical discussion and general banter. Index on first page. All welcome.

[dpeterfy32]

AZLA SednaEarfit MAX Standard Size ML

and why is it good with the xe6?

 

[tjzurlaaa]

and why is it good with the xe6?

Better overall control, brings more air and tampers the bass .. trust

 

[drftr]

trust

Trust, but verify.

drftr

 

[dleblanc343]

How do you layer other Squigs on top of each other from different databases?

I have the original measurement (.txt) files.

But you can also export curves (download) on the right on many of the squiglink pages. It's just important to note that not everyone's measurements are coming from the same coupler and can have deviations/ variance between each other.

In this case, using one of my + one of AAF's squigs is not ideal, but I am confident in his sweeps being good and trust mine as well.

 

[drftr]

I have the original measurement (.txt) files.

But you can also export curves (download) on the right on many of the squiglink pages. It's just important to note that not everyone's measurements are coming from the same coupler and can have deviations/ variance between each other.

In this case, using one of my + one of AAF's squigs is not ideal, but I am confident in his sweeps being good and trust mine as well.

Would you be able to make them more reliable by using his measurements of a few IEMs you measured as well? Or is it not possible to tune/adjust measurements to that degree?

drftr

 

[freeryder05]

Would you be able to make them more reliable by using his measurements of a few IEMs you measured as well? Or is it not possible to tune/adjust measurements to that degree?

drftr

It would probably require some sort of a compensation file using a bunch of very common IEMs to calibrate the couplers.

If you take like 10 samples of well known IEMs, measure them on 1 coupler than measure those same units on another you could probably compensate the differences between the 2.

 

[exitfire401]

Unaltered, pure sound, culminating in audio heaven.

(The CD-Version of this album has double the tracks, I recommend buying it instead)


(Also buy my gear, please, I promise it's really good, I just love this set so much...)

ugh, this is gonna be the set that finally makes me order a full custom, isn't it?

 

[maegnificant]

ugh, this is gonna be the set that finally makes me order a full custom, isn't it?

I could certainly see why, but I would recommend to try it out first, no?

 

[stacey]

Customs are marriage...make sure you like what you hear first before committing to a custom.

 

[dleblanc343]

Would you be able to make them more reliable by using his measurements of a few IEMs you measured as well? Or is it not possible to tune/adjust measurements to that degree?

drftr

These are all sweeps I did myself on various TOTL reference/ warm or dark IEM's.

Maybe it can help you cross-reference and extrapolate some expectations.

Take note, Volur measured a bit more with deep fit whereas everything else is measured at average fit.

VEX was measured with AET07 instead of Sedna Shorts (it didn't sound good).

Everything else is consistent in terms of SPL, fitment and eartip use.

 

[drftr]

These are all sweeps I did myself on various TOTL reference/ warm or dark IEM's.

Maybe it can help you cross-reference and extrapolate some expectations.

Take note, Volur measured a bit more with deep fit whereas everything else is measured at average fit.

VEX was measured with AET07 instead of Sedna Shorts (it didn't sound good).

Everything else is consistent in terms of SPL, fitment and eartip use.

I think Onyx would follow Volür up to 100 Hz (or even top it), then VEX up to 20 kHz. Have you heard it? Could be right up your sleeve.

drftr

 

[dleblanc343]

I think Onyx would follow Volür up to 100 Hz (or even top it), then VEX up to 20 kHz. Have you heard it? Could be right up your sleeve.

drftr

I have not, and from what I've read/ heard from others I would probably find it lacks a bit of dynamics and clarity for my preferences. Although it graphs very dark, apparently it's very open and well layered, which offsets the sense of darkness. Likely good quality components and psychoacoustical tonal quirks.

For someone wanting a very dark but linear IEM though, this could be great but I can't comment without hearing myself. @Smirk 24 was pretty lukewarm on it if I remember (same for Volur when I sent it over to him; I enjoy Volur though)

 

[o0genesis0o]

does it have lime azla vivid M on it? how do you like it?

That’s actually Juzear spinfit clones. They are alright.

 

[smirks_audio]

I have not, and from what I've read/ heard from others I would probably find it lacks a bit of dynamics and clarity for my preferences. Although it graphs very dark, apparently it's very open and well layered, which offsets the sense of darkness. Likely good quality components and psychoacoustical tonal quirks.

For someone wanting a very dark but linear IEM though, this could be great but I can't comment without hearing myself. @Smirk 24 was pretty lukewarm on it if I remember (same for Volur when I sent it over to him; I enjoy Volur though)

I preferred Onyx over VE X, not because I thought it was better or anything, I just found VE X too warm for my preferences.

I liked Volür a lot except for the vocal timbre which, unfortunately in Volür’s case, I index the hardest for.

 

[wolfstar76]

Fir Audio Electron 10 and Electron 12. Very confusing single DD IEMs, I would not believe they are from Fir Audio if I were hearing them in a blind test. Fir Audio is one of my favorite IEM companies, but the tuning of E10/E12 is nothing like its previous offers.

They are the lest colored IEMs among all Fir Audio offers, and to my ears tuned lean and bright compared to IEMs such as its Frontier series. They are also some of the most difficult IEMs for tip rolling, most of the tips I tried tend to exaggerate the learn and bright aspect. Only with the best pairing of tips, you can hear good enough bass, but still far from satisfying any basshead.

When I first put them on, especially E12, I found that all of my music become very unfamiliar to me, and I am hearing them in a very different way. You may call this experience as palate cleansing. However, after extended listening session, I started to get used to this tuning, and I can understand that others may appreciate this type of tuning. I have to say that they are just not for me, I need some color in the tuning and way more bass.

I guess most people would prefer cheaper E10 to E12, maybe they are tuned towards clarity and clean, but I found the highlighted treble lacks bass to compensate, therefore leaving me head-heavy sorta feeling in the overall tuning.

The unique tuning of both E10 and E12 is that the DD is tuned in such as a way that they are not like a typical DD. They are fast, and with timbre that reminds me something else, could be BA, or Planar, but not DD.