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May 19, 2024 at 8:06 AM Post #89,566 of 106,712
I'm not interested in a Yes or No but into the thoughts you put into words. I agree with you and on second reading I thought Felix' thoughts were a bit pedantic. So I would want to read from people that subscribe to his point of view to see what I can learn from it.

My first thought was that if I'm not emotionally moved by the music it must not be good. Then I thought about works like Music For 18 Musicians and stuff and figured that if music simply creates an interest and thought stream it might be good as well, as it does something.

Not sure...

drftr
Yeah that makes sense. I too would be interested to hear about those who think similarly to him, certainly a strong chance they know something I don’t and can learn to see music in a different light.

I think when I say “moves me emotionally” I mean that it brings about some kind of emotion (anything really - happy, sad, angry, confused, etc.) which in turn causes some sort of interest or reflection. Could be interest on what’s going on in the music, self reflection, reflection on composer/artists intent, whatever, but does, as you say, something outside of just creating wiggly air.

Unless that’s the point, would I find completely randomized frequencies in a random order/timing interesting? Perhaps I would… a tough question you’ve posed for a Sunday, much appreciated!
 
May 19, 2024 at 8:12 AM Post #89,567 of 106,712
would I find completely randomized frequencies in a random order/timing interesting?
You may find yourself sitting down for it to give it a chance, then do that 5 times more to see if it's growing on you. If you're anything like me you'd want to try to understand the concept behind the seemingly random notes and why on Earth it was composed that way. And did you really lose time if it did nothing for you? Or did you actually learn something because of it? Tough call.

drftr
 
May 19, 2024 at 8:35 AM Post #89,568 of 106,712
You may find yourself sitting down for it to give it a chance, then do that 5 times more to see if it's growing on you. If you're anything like me you'd want to try to understand the concept behind the seemingly random notes and why on Earth it was composed that way. And did you really lose time if it did nothing for you? Or did you actually learn something because of it? Tough call.

drftr
I’m certainly like you in that respect. I think as a young teenager I had something similar with Schoenberg Peripetie, sat in class not quite grasping what was happening but really intrigued by why.

Our time is precious, but so is our time with music, sound, and our own thoughts. A tough call indeed!
 
May 19, 2024 at 10:04 AM Post #89,569 of 106,712
Something interesting I discovered today, VEX has its serial number on the shell:

IMG_2763.jpeg
 
May 19, 2024 at 10:17 AM Post #89,570 of 106,712
What if someone's elevator music is someone else's album of the year? Is music (or any art really) good if it tickles your senses? Perhaps even if it's in a negative way?

drftr
Like this bad?
 
May 19, 2024 at 10:44 AM Post #89,571 of 106,712
May 19, 2024 at 10:52 AM Post #89,573 of 106,712
May 19, 2024 at 11:08 AM Post #89,575 of 106,712
You sure you don’t have a transcoded track or two? 💀

Oh I’m sure I do. Funny enough I even found a few “record labeled leaked” MP3 albums in my collection. Each track had a voice over that said something like “Go support the artist and purchase the album on xxxx date” or “Wouldn’t it be nice to purchase this album instead of hearing this voice over?” And of course a virus or two. 💀 Those P2P days were wild.
 
May 19, 2024 at 11:47 AM Post #89,577 of 106,712
Why be a 🍆?
I'm not, I genuinely wondered if there was something about this that I didn't know.
But by your response, I understand there's indeed nothing about it.
 
May 19, 2024 at 12:00 PM Post #89,578 of 106,712
Something interesting I discovered today, VEX has its serial number on the shell:

IMG_2763.jpeg

I never noticed this during my ownership, lmao. Maybe that’s a testament to how pleasant they sound.
 

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