[povidlo]

https://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref=TVert&from=&to=en&a=https://watchmono.com/e/fiio-utws3

This looks like an instant purchase for me

BT codec support is not mentioned, is it?

 

[ClieOS]

BT codec support is not mentioned, is it?

Likely just SBC, AAC and aptX.

 

[povidlo]

Likely just SBC, AAC and aptX.

Naturally hoping for aptx-hd or better ldac but probably asking for too much.

Might stick with my Xelento BT dongle which is aptx-hd and universal mmcx. It's very light, unobtrusive, with enough power for most iems/earbuds.

 

[ClieOS]

Naturally hoping for aptx-hd or better ldac but probably asking for too much.

The QCC3020 SoC that is going to be used on UTWS3 isn't able to support aptX-HD (and thus LDAC) on hardware level.

TWS adapter only gets about half the bandwidth of normal BT connection on each side, making it very difficult to use any HD codec (which usually required more than half the bandwidth even not used in TWS setup) Realistically speaking, we have to wait till someone make a TWS adapter with Qualcomm 51xx series SoC before aptX-HD and LDAC support is possible because qcc51XX has the extra processing capacity to handle HD codec in TWS setup while QCC3xxx doesn't..Also more likely that we have to wait till Bluetooth 5.2 becomes widely available before we will see a stable HD codec connection for TWS adapter as we will see a 50% bandwidth increase on BT5.2.. I think we are still at least a year or two away from that.

 

[lightlight]

I've got good news for you, our utws3 is coming out soon.

HI Fiio Willson... Any specific dates? We have been waiting for so long already..

 

[Ocelitgol]

HI Fiio Willson... Any specific dates? We have been waiting for so long already..

Same here man. I've been putting off buying other stuffs like BTR5, Qudelix, TRN BT20S Pro, etc. just for these.
I think I read somewhere they're releasing this winter, not sure when.

 

[lightlight]

With all this wait, I am reminded of that Bob Marley's Waiting in vain song!

I don't want to wait in a vain for your love.....

 

[FiiO Willson]

HI Fiio Willson... Any specific dates? We have been waiting for so long already..

With all this wait, I am reminded of that Bob Marley's Waiting in vain song!

I don't want to wait in a vain for your love.....

Hello, Thank you very much for your support of FiiO!
More detailed indicators will have to wait until all of our official information is released. I can only mention some of the main points here:
1,Qualcomm QCC3020
2,Standalone High Performance Headphone Amplifier
3,TWS+ Low Latency Technology
4,aptX Lossless Transmission
5,MMCX/0.78mm interface-MMCX will be released first.
6,APP intelligent control
7, Large-capacity charging case
8,30 hours long battery life
9,IPX4 waterproof design

 

[lightlight]

Hello, Thank you very much for your support of FiiO!
More detailed indicators will have to wait until all of our official information is released. I can only mention some of the main points here:
1,Qualcomm QCC3020
2,Standalone High Performance Headphone Amplifier
3,TWS+ Low Latency Technology
4,aptX Lossless Transmission
5,MMCX/0.78mm interface-MMCX will be released first.
6,APP intelligent control
7, Large-capacity charging case
8,30 hours long battery life
9,IPX4 waterproof design

Still no release dates....

 

[felix3650]

What about this? It looks interesting with LDAC/AptX-Adaptive and it's QCC5125 chipset

BGVP M2

 

[Ocelitgol]

What about this? It looks interesting with LDAC/AptX-Adaptive and it's QCC5125 chipset

BGVP M2

if you're going with the neckband type, I think Fiio has a great version. You can use it as DAC as well.

That will be my 2nd choice if the upcoming UTWS3 fail

 

[C_Lindbergh]

What about this? It looks interesting with LDAC/AptX-Adaptive and it's QCC5125 chipset

BGVP M2

They deffo look interesting, but can't find a single English review yet.

There are also these for a mere 27 EUR during BF, seller claims this BT cable also supports multipoint.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001773335871.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000013.8.2624581fLrsrCe&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=b235f0ab-8d9e-47c2-957d-3ccecce12283&_t=gps-idcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:b235f0ab-8d9e-47c2-957d-3ccecce12283,tpp_buckets:668#0#131923#0_668#808#4094#790_668#888#3325#11_668#2846#8114#731_668#2717#7567#970_668#1000022185#1000066059#0_668#3468#15607#21

Hmm, might actually go with a cheap alternative like these from Ali, at last until there are premium LC3/bluetooth le audio adapters

 

[lightlight]

Surely, we are digressing from the main topic of this thread ... But as long as we are already doing that, I am wondering in terms of comfort and ease of use, is the neckband style better than those clip-on adapters such as the fiio btr5 or qudelix 5K both of which also have the new Qualcomm chip...

 

[C_Lindbergh]

Surely, we are digressing from the main topic of this thread ... But as long as we are already doing that, I am wondering in terms of comfort and ease of use, is the neckband style better than those clip-on adapters such as the fiio btr5 or qudelix 5K both of which also have the new Qualcomm chip...

Well it's a matter of convenience vs SQ/features and personal taste imo.

Clip on adapter:
Unbeatable when it comes to SQ/feature, but theres still a wire between your chest and IEMs.

Neckband:
You get a bit more freedom from wires, but at the cost of some SQ/features

True Wireless adapters:
Top convenience, total freedom from wires and they are easy to charge and power on/off.


But you'll have higher latency, less battery life on a single charge and prob still not as many features/SQ as a BTR5/5K. The case is also much bigger than non adapter true wireless earbuds.

Personally I'm a fan of neckband, but true wireless adapters will be awesome once they overcome most of their shortcomings. We'll just have to wait for next gen Bluetooth LE/LC3

 

[lightlight]

The bgvp m2 looks quite good actually.. But when I searched for this model on aliexpress, I see 3rd party sellers listing the exact same model with Bluetooth 5.2, but bgvp official store says 5.1... Wonder why does every single 3rd party seller listing this at 5.2!