The Stax Thread III

Aug 6, 2016 at 12:07 PM Post #9,436 of 27,970
  My KGSShv Carbon review
Maybe should be in the amp reviews section but may get overlooked in there?
 


 
This is a quick review of a DIY built Stat amplifier using boards designed by Kevin Gilmour and others. It was built for me by 'headinclouds' and is a limited release (all sold).
However, the boards are available to the DIY community, so if anyone wants to find a builder go over to the other place for details. Building one yourself is not for the faint hearted or novice as high voltages are involved and the circuit is fairly complex.
 
Bear in mind I have my other DAC, the AMR DP-777 here for this review, not my bigger Audio Note DAC 5 Special.
 
The first impression on the very first note was wow. Information overload, guess not helped by playing a busy trance track. Comparing how my previous KGSShv (really great amp in it's own right) sounded with my 007As or my 009s, this Carbon is more lively and has more detail. It however has no sharp sounding treble or digital / unnatural sounding with that extra information. The soundstage is super wide and 3D and the instrument separation superb and amazing layering. It is not as warm and cosy as my Sanyo KGSShv. That amp was possibly more forgiving? There is tons of information hitting you at once, all clean and in the right place, remarkable. Even when it gets super busy you can separate everything and position it in the 'head stage', no mean feet.
 
The midrange is damb good, not sucked out or lacking information. It's all there. Vocal are very natural and piano realistic. It reminds me of a really great speaker setup with big dynamics and great timbre. The bass especially on the 009s is very fast and very textured, no muddy one note going on here. It also doesn't muddy the rest of the audio band even if it is a bass heavy track. It also goes very deep. Decay and echoes, tiny stuff in the background are all there, like a master tape. I get the feeling there is tons of spare power on hand, it is on tick over and is driving the 007s or 009s with ease.
 
I have read the SIC Fets are a big deal in the Carbon and probably part of the reason why it sounds so good. The power supply also uses the newer more advanced GR supplies (compared to my KGSShv) and the extra 2 LV 15V DC boards may also have an impact. My experience with various power amplifiers and DACs over the years seems to confirm a better and cleaner supply = better sound. I don't go into technicalities, the info it out there for ones who want to read further.
 
I can say thankfully my NOS AMR DAC is super smooth and no treble coldness so it is great, no issues so far. Female vocals or jazz, symbols are all fine. There is a tiny bit less bass in the Carbon than my old KGSShv, but it is faster and more textured, less one note and bloated. The amp grabs the 007s and wrings the last bit of life out of them, bit like bursting a ballon behind a Labrador and seeing it run as fast as a Border Collie.
 
With the 009s the soundstage goes even wider and the transparency goes up a notch compared to the 007s. It is still super clean though. It is as all things, the closer to the source = the less hidden are the sources possible faults. So a good clean and balanced sounding DAC is key I think.
 
It does get a tiny bit hotter than my old amp, about 38°C on the hottest part of the heat sinks. No big deal.
 
I'll let others rate the Carbon against Stax amps or other amps like the BHSE. Just need to say it is the best sound I have heard so far and am super happy with this amp. It is incredible how much better the 007s and 009s can get IMO.


Great write up astrostar59.  
 
How does your Carbon sound compared to BHSE's you have heard with the 009's.  ?  
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 12:53 PM Post #9,437 of 27,970
Sorry for the repost, but does anybody have info on the L300 yet?

 
All I can offer are impressions from a short listen at a recent local meet.  Listened out of the baby amp 252s and out of my KGSSHV Carbon.  They're bright for my taste...way too much treble etch for me, but my hearing just doesn't appreciate that.  As a comparison, there were a pair of 404 Signatures that knocked the L300's out of the park....much better IMO, both out of an 006t (I believe it was with upgraded tubes) and the KGSSHV Carbon.
 
I also did not find them comfortable at all. 
 
I'd recommend an older pair of the right Lambda's before the L300's.  Or....I really like the SR-003MkII's as a great bang for the buck if you can get used to the ear tips.  They're thin so I only listen to them for 20-30 minutes at a time, but the sound sign is REALLY good for the money.  I was able to pick up a pair on eBay w/o having to purchase the amp.  Delivered promptly and clearly brand new and original.  Nice option if you don't want a headband on for a shorter listening session.
 
Good luck.
 
HS
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 1:10 PM Post #9,438 of 27,970
Aug 6, 2016 at 1:14 PM Post #9,439 of 27,970
Sorry for the repost, but does anybody have info on the L300 yet?

See posts below as I have not heard the L300s yet. But I would recommend the old Lambda Nova Signatures as they are one of the best Lambdas made and have less of an aggressive treble with decent bass response. Or save for the 507s or new L700s.
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 1:47 PM Post #9,440 of 27,970
Based on loose recollection I'd also like to say the Carbon is roughly close to the BHSE.
 
I wouldn't call it better though. I also disagree with the uncommon (but vocal) sentiment that the Carbon is at or near the league of the T2. The only area I'm hearing in favor of the Carbon is the lower noise floor.
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 3:12 PM Post #9,441 of 27,970
I get confused with the Signature series and the order of release. There also seems to be a few 404 series versions too.

The 404 Limited Edition seems to be the best of the bunch but it's impossible to find. I know it was limited to 1000 units but not sure if higher production models even exceed a few thousand anyway. Stax is a really small operation and they don't pump out even hundreds a month.
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 5:19 PM Post #9,442 of 27,970
  Based on loose recollection I'd also like to say the Carbon is roughly close to the BHSE.
 
I wouldn't call it better though. I also disagree with the uncommon (but vocal) sentiment that the Carbon is at or near the league of the T2. The only area I'm hearing in favor of the Carbon is the lower noise floor.


There are various builds of the Carbon with different power supplies. The later PS has CCS and extra LV boards. I have have no idea if that makes any difference, but some say it does.
 
Aug 6, 2016 at 6:37 PM Post #9,443 of 27,970
The V5 and V6 board runs of the KGSSHV Carbon have very little difference per a post today on the other site.  The separate GR LV boards are an iteration.  I'd argue no more different flavors than any DIY amp design that's not been out all that long.
 
IMO minor differences get over exaggerated on the forums.  Some folks must have puppy hearing.
 
 
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HS
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 12:28 AM Post #9,444 of 27,970
   The biggest downside to me on the BHSE is the need to source expensive tubes, which may last maybe 12 months. Maybe a bit longer....

Where in the world did you get that idea?  The EL34 tubes in the BHSE are run at 40% of maximum plate dissipation.  Now back in the 50s when all consumer electronics were tubed, power tubes were expected to last 2000-3000 hours, but this was running them at 65-80% of rated dissipation.  That's 2-3 years of listening 3 hours every day including weekends and holidays with no breaks, which is probably more than most people.  Run as conservatively as the BHSE I would expect them to last 5000 hours at a minimum, and perhaps as long as 10,000 hours, similar to the lifetime of conservatively run 12AX7s, 6SN7s or 6DJ8s, which is quite a few years of listening.
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 2:44 AM Post #9,445 of 27,970
  Where in the world did you get that idea?  

Yes you may be correct. I didn't know the BHSE ran then well under heat dissipation.
 
My assumption was based on my experience of NOS 300B tubes in my Speaker set up being SET mono blocks which lasted a year to 16 months on average with daily use. The WE 300B however had a 5 years guarantee but were super expensive so I couldn't afford those.
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM Post #9,447 of 27,970
Um, not really.  The problem is that you posted about tube life in an amp [BHSE] with which you have no experience or knowledge of ITS tube life, based on experiences with other tube amps which are not relevant because tube power amps for speakers run their tubes much harder.  IIRC, spritzer, for example, has posted tubes last for many years in the BHSE.
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 12:43 PM Post #9,448 of 27,970
 
Um, not really.  The problem is that you posted about tube life in an amp [BHSE] with which you have no experience or knowledge of ITS tube life, based on experiences with other tube amps which are not relevant because tube power amps for speakers run their tubes much harder.  IIRC, spritzer, for example, has posted tubes last for many years in the BHSE.

Fair enough.
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 11:02 PM Post #9,449 of 27,970
I've cleaned up this thread again. Stop trolling on Astrostar59. At least he's sharing. And if you see a fault in his thoughts/opinion, politely point it out to him.
 
Aug 7, 2016 at 11:39 PM Post #9,450 of 27,970
PriceJapan is up again. The manager was hospitalized, which accounts for the complete communication cut off. Thanks to paradoxper for the tip-off. This is what was posted on the site:
 
 
 
2016-08-05
 We will resume our work from Aig 08
 
 
 Really sorry for long-day not-working, caused by rehospitalization.
 Not-shipped order will be shipped soon ( or be refunded if preferred by customer.)
 Sorry again for causing anxiety.
 
  2016.8.5
  Kaneda
 

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